787 Fleet Technical Instructor job
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It isn’t a sim instructor job because all of ours are seniority list pilots making over two times what you stated above at a minimum as FO pilot instructors (evaluators make a lot more as they are on a “best held” captain scale . Fleet technical instructors use the FTD devices to teach basic flows but are really ground school instructors focusing on systems. Important job that probably deserves more than what they are currently being paid but If you were thinking that the pay is low because you see the job as “simulator instructor”, then you are mistaken. Different job.
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It isn’t a sim instructor job because all of ours are seniority list pilots making over two times what you stated above at a minimum as FO pilot instructors (evaluators make a lot more as they are on a “best held” captain scale . Fleet technical instructors use the FTD devices to teach basic flows but are really ground school instructors focusing on systems. Important job that probably deserves more than what they are currently being paid but If you were thinking that the pay is low because you see the job as “simulator instructor”, then you are mistaken. Different job.
American, Delta, Alaska, Southwest and JetBlue all use non-seniority list sim instructors. I assumed United did the same.
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They do not and hopefully never will. Sim instructors are on the list and fly the line.
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So, does United just dump the guys that lose their medicals, since they can't fly the line and therefore aren't, apparently, good enough to be sim instructors?
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No. They go on LTD (which hopefully will be raised on the upcoming contract but currently pays out around 8K a month tax free until retirement age) and can also work outside the company in a position not requiring a medical. Not sure if working in a non flying position at UAL is allowed while collecting LTD. Someone more familiar will probably chime in. Good luck with the search.
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And I am not interested in a $60k ground instructor job. So why waste everyone's time?
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It's apparent you don't understand how this works and I get it since UAL doesn't hire non line sim instructors.
I have already admitted that I didn't know that and believed the FTI job at United was a sim instructor job.
They called and offered an interview, I'm not in class yet, so I accepted, like plenty of others here have done and would do. You never know.
I came here for information, which I received. I also know these forums come loaded with the kind of BS you provided. Thanks to those who gave legitimate info. It was very helpful and appreciated.
As far as your contribution,
Meh.
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It's a sim instructor job. And most airlines pay in the $90-100k range.
I have no idea about FlightSafety or Simcom or CAE or any of the corporate/contract outfits.
And yeah, if what I have heard about the pay at United is correct, it's a deal breaker. But I'll see what I hear from them in a few days vs. hearsay on the street.
I have no idea about FlightSafety or Simcom or CAE or any of the corporate/contract outfits.
And yeah, if what I have heard about the pay at United is correct, it's a deal breaker. But I'll see what I hear from them in a few days vs. hearsay on the street.
From the united pilot contract:
23-A-1 Unless agreed otherwise by the Company and the Association, only I/Es shall conduct, train and grade flight procedures and maneuvers from takeoff through landing in flight simulators or other flight training devices, except that other Company employees may perform normal procedures (e.g., takeoff, cruise, landing) only to the extent necessary to conduct systems training.
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