Any Pilots from March 3 Cancelled Class
03-03-2020 | 08:58 AM
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I guess we should do away with that custom.
**** it.. I will not tell my company that I'm not going to be available to fly my trip on Wednesday, I'll call them from my break during InDoc at my new employer!
No one is really arguing about the fact that we canceled their class. What many of us are saying is that it was in poor taste to tell them on day X- yupe, all is well. Then literally a couple days later and 2 or 3 days prior to class.. NOPE, don't show up.
Poor call in mine (and many others) opinion.
FS, FP & FtC
Motch
https://www.gofundme.com/f/march-3rd-class-relief-fund
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro
03-03-2020 | 09:41 AM
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No one is really arguing about the fact that we canceled their class. What many of us are saying is that it was in poor taste to tell them on day X- yupe, all is well. Then literally a couple days later and 2 or 3 days prior to class.. NOPE, don't show up.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/march-3rd-class-relief-fund
I don’t think anyone is arguing that the way United went about this is in poor taste. But we now have is a generation of pilots who have never had bad times in aviation and have no idea this is just what airlines do, when times get crappy. It’s not limited to United almost all of them did this after 9/11 and a lot of them did it in the recession. Not saying that makes it ok, but this is just what happens.
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03-03-2020 | 09:48 AM
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Are you honestly telling me that these 10 or so pilots had no money in the bank, no rainy day fund, no 2nd source of income or no working spouse and they live paycheck to paycheck?? It doesn't reflect well on their financial management and that deserves no sympathies
You are raising 50k for about 10 pilots. Thats 5k per pilots. How long is it going to last them? Do you plan on using Gofundme platform to raise income until United reinstates their class which no one knows when that might be?
Totally impractical and unrealistic!
You are raising 50k for about 10 pilots. Thats 5k per pilots. How long is it going to last them? Do you plan on using Gofundme platform to raise income until United reinstates their class which no one knows when that might be?
Totally impractical and unrealistic!
03-03-2020 | 10:46 AM
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I don’t think anyone is arguing that the way United went about this is in poor taste. But we now have is a generation of pilots who have never had bad times in aviation and have no idea this is just what airlines do, when times get crappy. It’s not limited to United almost all of them did this after 9/11 and a lot of them did it in the recession. Not saying that makes it ok, but this is just what happens.
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03-03-2020 | 11:00 AM
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you will lose your house your car you’re boat your plane your wife......and at the end they will say told you so.
03-03-2020 | 11:04 AM
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03-03-2020 | 11:25 AM
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Could these "old farts" have just been giving a warning instead of setting up for an "I told you so" moment? Before 9/11 I flew with many former rEAL pilots that gave me these same warnings about what happens when times get bad. I didn't take it as them trying to rain on my parade. I was thankful to learn from their experiences. And damn near everything they told me came to fruition, continuously, over the next 8 years.
03-03-2020 | 11:26 AM
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Could these "old farts" have just been giving a warning instead of setting up for an "I told you so" moment? Before 9/11 I flew with many former rEAL pilots that gave me these same warnings about what happens when times get bad. I didn't take it as them trying to rain on my parade. I was thankful to learn from their experiences. And damn near everything they told me came to fruition, continuously, over the next 8 years.
cheers
03-03-2020 | 11:40 AM
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One of many problems the pilots in the 03 class face, specifically the 10 or so who are in the cold, is they are not eligible for unemployment benefits. At least that was an option for us furloughed guys, And I am not up to speed on their medical benefits, but they are probably cooked there as well. At least folks who call us jaded and cynical now know how we got that way....
03-03-2020 | 11:40 AM
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Could these "old farts" have just been giving a warning instead of setting up for an "I told you so" moment? Before 9/11 I flew with many former rEAL pilots that gave me these same warnings about what happens when times get bad. I didn't take it as them trying to rain on my parade. I was thankful to learn from their experiences. And damn near everything they told me came to fruition, continuously, over the next 8 years.
best advice I ever got was live a full pay scale down because **** happens and when it does airlines struggle.
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