Schedule/fleet reductions
03-23-2020 | 06:11 AM
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That would be nice, but it’s Kirby that we’re dealing with and he likes the regional feed vs mainline. Hopefully by holding the line on scope he will have to change the way UAX operates and a bunch of those beat up 50 seaters will find their way into retirement. By holding the line he doesn’t get more rj’s. The only way he gets more is if we give them to him, or if our contract is opened up in CH 11. He wants the bailout money, not bankruptcy. All we can do for now is to head over to the what cha’ drinking thread and watch what happens.
03-23-2020 | 08:30 AM
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One thing no ones really mentioning is all the RJ’s united owns and sub leases to the express carriers. May be too late now, but our scope going forward should stipulate if furloughs happen UAL owner rj’s need to be either rolled into mainline or parked immediately.
The idea that UAL rj’s May/will be flown by uax pilots while we may have some on the street doesn’t sit well with me.
The idea that UAL rj’s May/will be flown by uax pilots while we may have some on the street doesn’t sit well with me.
03-23-2020 | 09:03 AM
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I haven't bothered playing with the numbers but I'm sure SK will, including factoring in the cost to retrain UAL pilots. In addition, it's a matter of how easy it will be for United to contractually reduce outsourcing. This is all speculation on my part; good for you for doing an initial numbers crunch.
Cost per seat mile may not matter as much as cost to operate each flight. I wouldn't expect any flight - either RJ or mainline - to be profitable for some time; I'm not sure why you or anyone would think that RJ flights are anywhere close to breakeven for mainline carriers. I also expect flight frequency of all city pairs to be reduced - that's both mainline and RJ cities.
No airline is going to be spared from this carnage.
Cost per seat mile may not matter as much as cost to operate each flight. I wouldn't expect any flight - either RJ or mainline - to be profitable for some time; I'm not sure why you or anyone would think that RJ flights are anywhere close to breakeven for mainline carriers. I also expect flight frequency of all city pairs to be reduced - that's both mainline and RJ cities.
No airline is going to be spared from this carnage.
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03-23-2020 | 09:12 AM
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One thing no ones really mentioning is all the RJ’s united owns and sub leases to the express carriers. May be too late now, but our scope going forward should stipulate if furloughs happen UAL owner rj’s need to be either rolled into mainline or parked immediately.
The idea that UAL rj’s May/will be flown by uax pilots while we may have some on the street doesn’t sit well with me.
The idea that UAL rj’s May/will be flown by uax pilots while we may have some on the street doesn’t sit well with me.
03-23-2020 | 09:30 AM
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I’d love to see it, but I seriously doubt that Kirby would ever sign that. I do hope that this massive downturn makes them look at 100 seat mainline jets again. Having efficient and modern 100 seat jets with 75% load factors would be better than less efficient 150 seat jets running around with 50% loads.
03-23-2020 | 09:35 AM
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yeah I have very little clue about this, and it’s clearly more than a bit pointless to try to guess what the company has already gamed out a few thousand ways with as many variables on their supercomputers. Time to ride the carousel...
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"Lot of pressure. You've gotta rise above it. You've got to harness in the good energy, block out the bad. Harness... energy... block... bad. Feel the flow, feel it. It's circular. Its like a carousel-- you pay the quarter, you get on the horse. It goes up and down and around. Circular... circle. With the music, the flow. All good things."
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03-23-2020 | 09:52 AM
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One thing no ones really mentioning is all the RJ’s united owns and sub leases to the express carriers. May be too late now, but our scope going forward should stipulate if furloughs happen UAL owner rj’s need to be either rolled into mainline or parked immediately.
The idea that UAL rj’s May/will be flown by uax pilots while we may have some on the street doesn’t sit well with me.
The idea that UAL rj’s May/will be flown by uax pilots while we may have some on the street doesn’t sit well with me.
03-23-2020 | 10:00 AM
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One thing no ones really mentioning is all the RJ’s united owns and sub leases to the express carriers. May be too late now, but our scope going forward should stipulate if furloughs happen UAL owner rj’s need to be either rolled into mainline or parked immediately.
The idea that UAL rj’s May/will be flown by uax pilots while we may have some on the street doesn’t sit well with me.
The idea that UAL rj’s May/will be flown by uax pilots while we may have some on the street doesn’t sit well with me.
...and then never give ‘em back! Regional problem solved!
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