Furlough estimate
07-15-2020 | 08:31 AM
#1481
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If pOTUS had provided effective LEADERSHIP it would have provided a consistent policy nationwide. Maybe not a perfect policy but one that would have been more effective and open to input.
There will always be some that dislike anything from a Republican just as some (maybe you for example) will dislike anything from a Dem.
I honestly believe that any of the other candidates would have been better choices and capable of providing effective LEADERSHIP ... not referring to just Hillary... any of the other GOP primary candidates as well. However, choices were made and we have what we have. Our pOTUS won fair and square even though he was totally unqualified ... as he has demonstrated consistently.
All of us have the right to complain. Even those that voted for the problem.
With proper measures not taken ... and actually discouraged by pOTUS ... things are getting worse ... which was predictable ... let's hope ridership doesn't drop off again.
After this post I may not see you for awhile ... or maybe under this screen name. Hoping for the best.
There will always be some that dislike anything from a Republican just as some (maybe you for example) will dislike anything from a Dem.
I honestly believe that any of the other candidates would have been better choices and capable of providing effective LEADERSHIP ... not referring to just Hillary... any of the other GOP primary candidates as well. However, choices were made and we have what we have. Our pOTUS won fair and square even though he was totally unqualified ... as he has demonstrated consistently.
All of us have the right to complain. Even those that voted for the problem.
With proper measures not taken ... and actually discouraged by pOTUS ... things are getting worse ... which was predictable ... let's hope ridership doesn't drop off again.
After this post I may not see you for awhile ... or maybe under this screen name. Hoping for the best.
When he shut down travel he was called a xenophobic. What did madame Pelosi do? Go around Chinatown hugging pedestrians calling Trump reckless. Whether you like the man or not it’s undeniable the media’s subversion of his policies. They have been fueling this hysterical fire regarding the virus.
Where he’s miss stepped is with Fauci and Brix. Fauci failed with the AIDS epidemic in the 80’s and he’s failed again. He’s doubled down on a vaccine. Vaccines have been mostly ineffective against RNA based viruses. But then to float the idea a vaccine passport is ludicrous and totalitarian. Brix has admitted repeatedly that people who have been admitted, tested positive (alive or posthumously) have been tallied as Covid deaths regardless of the cause. Therefore, inflating the numbers and adding to the media hype. The models they relied on where incredibly inaccurate, which set the pandemonium in motion.
What we do know is:
if your under the age of 70, the death rate is 0.04%.
Masks, whether they stop the spread or not, most face coverings have pore sizes of 100-200 microns and the wuhan virus measures 0.1 microns.
The youth were the ones out “protesting”.The spike in cases as been amongst the young and in bars. But there seems to be no correlation🤔.
As to your last comments, I’ve never had an alter ego. Don’t need to. You?
Frats
07-15-2020 | 09:31 AM
#1482
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07-15-2020 | 12:17 PM
#1483
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From: B-737 Captain
07-15-2020 | 01:10 PM
#1484
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From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
So how do you guys feel about the current POTUS, political climate, wearing masks, and foreign vs domestic management of COVID?
Oh yeah I’m thinking there might be some furloughs in Oct or something like that?
Oh yeah I’m thinking there might be some furloughs in Oct or something like that?
07-15-2020 | 02:44 PM
#1485
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It can't be helped. I've posted things that I thought were non-political, yet within 30 minutes people start foaming at the mouth "Red-haired man bad".
07-15-2020 | 03:26 PM
#1486
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From: 767/757 CA
Not directed at you... but a lot of pilots apparently did not do well in civics class in high school... We live in a constitutional republic... the governors of the 50 states have the responsibility to determine and implement what actions will be taken to control a pandemic... not the federal government. The Federal guidelines that were published can be adopted, ignored, and/or modified based on their specific situation.
If you want to point fingers google state governors and start emailing them... they are the ones who are responsible for the COVID response within their states.
07-15-2020 | 07:13 PM
#1488
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This is utter insanity. There are two mitigating strategies that work with this virus: social distancing and wearing masks. That’s it. That’s how other countries have suppressed the virus and begun to reopen their economies. Achieving herd immunity before we have a vaccine would be too devastating to consider as a possibility.
People keep saying “the virus only has a 1% mortality rate”. That neglects the law of large numbers. It also assumes that only one of two things happen: you die or you’re 100% healthy. The U.S. has a population of 328.2 million (approx.). If 1% of the population dies, that’s roughly 3.28 million people dead. 3 million people dead would monkey wrench the economy no matter what. That more than doubles the number of annual deaths per year all at once. The second bit is people only talk about deaths. Also, and this is important, for ever 1 person who dies, roughly:
- 19 more require Hospitalization.
- 18 will have Permanent Heart Damage for the rest of their lives.
- 10 will have Permanent Lung Damage.
- 3 will have Strokes...
- 2 will have Neurological Damage that leads to Chronic Weakness and Loss of Coordination.
- 2 will have Neurological Damage that Leads to Cognitive Function.
This all adds up to:
- 3,282,000 People dead.
- 63,358,000 Hospitalized.
- 59,076,000 People w/ Permanent Lung Damage.
- 32,820,000 People w/ Permanent Heart Damage.
- 9,846,000 People w/ Strokes...
- 6,564,000 People w/ Muscle Weakness.
- 6,564,000 People w/ Loss of Cognitive Function.
The choice is not, “ruin the economy to save 1%.” If we reopen the economy, IT WILL BE DESTROYED ANYWAY! The U.S. economy cannot survive with everyone getting COVID-19.
This isn’t a media problem. This isn’t a political problem. This isn’t a public hysteria problem. This is a pandemic, and we know how to suppress it. We have a blueprint, laid out by other countries that have successfully suppressed the virus.
As has been said, there are many issues that a vaccine won’t help with: different strains, mutations, public confidence, anti-vaxers etc. What will help? Those two mitigation strategies that other countries have used to suppress the virus to the point that they have started to reopen their economies.
Wear your mask. Tell others to wear their mask. Socially distance yourself. Tell others to socially distance. Listen to the CDC and experts in epidemiology. And hope we start getting this advice from the federal government.
People keep saying “the virus only has a 1% mortality rate”. That neglects the law of large numbers. It also assumes that only one of two things happen: you die or you’re 100% healthy. The U.S. has a population of 328.2 million (approx.). If 1% of the population dies, that’s roughly 3.28 million people dead. 3 million people dead would monkey wrench the economy no matter what. That more than doubles the number of annual deaths per year all at once. The second bit is people only talk about deaths. Also, and this is important, for ever 1 person who dies, roughly:
- 19 more require Hospitalization.
- 18 will have Permanent Heart Damage for the rest of their lives.
- 10 will have Permanent Lung Damage.
- 3 will have Strokes...
- 2 will have Neurological Damage that leads to Chronic Weakness and Loss of Coordination.
- 2 will have Neurological Damage that Leads to Cognitive Function.
This all adds up to:
- 3,282,000 People dead.
- 63,358,000 Hospitalized.
- 59,076,000 People w/ Permanent Lung Damage.
- 32,820,000 People w/ Permanent Heart Damage.
- 9,846,000 People w/ Strokes...
- 6,564,000 People w/ Muscle Weakness.
- 6,564,000 People w/ Loss of Cognitive Function.
The choice is not, “ruin the economy to save 1%.” If we reopen the economy, IT WILL BE DESTROYED ANYWAY! The U.S. economy cannot survive with everyone getting COVID-19.
This isn’t a media problem. This isn’t a political problem. This isn’t a public hysteria problem. This is a pandemic, and we know how to suppress it. We have a blueprint, laid out by other countries that have successfully suppressed the virus.
As has been said, there are many issues that a vaccine won’t help with: different strains, mutations, public confidence, anti-vaxers etc. What will help? Those two mitigation strategies that other countries have used to suppress the virus to the point that they have started to reopen their economies.
Wear your mask. Tell others to wear their mask. Socially distance yourself. Tell others to socially distance. Listen to the CDC and experts in epidemiology. And hope we start getting this advice from the federal government.
going to be ok
07-15-2020 | 07:54 PM
#1489
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From: CRJ9 CA
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