Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

FML PEOPLE some of you need to give SOAR a call

Originally Posted by PT6A67B

This is utter insanity. There are two mitigating strategies that work with this virus: social distancing and wearing masks. That’s it. That’s how other countries have suppressed the virus and begun to reopen their economies. Achieving herd immunity before we have a vaccine would be too devastating to consider as a possibility.
People keep saying “the virus only has a 1% mortality rate”. That neglects the law of large numbers. It also assumes that only one of two things happen: you die or you’re 100% healthy. The U.S. has a population of 328.2 million (approx.). If 1% of the population dies, that’s roughly 3.28 million people dead. 3 million people dead would monkey wrench the economy no matter what. That more than doubles the number of annual deaths per year all at once. The second bit is people only talk about deaths. Also, and this is important, for ever 1 person who dies, roughly:
- 19 more require Hospitalization.
- 18 will have Permanent Heart Damage for the rest of their lives.
- 10 will have Permanent Lung Damage.
- 3 will have Strokes...
- 2 will have Neurological Damage that leads to Chronic Weakness and Loss of Coordination.
- 2 will have Neurological Damage that Leads to Cognitive Function.
This all adds up to:
- 3,282,000 People dead.
- 63,358,000 Hospitalized.
- 59,076,000 People w/ Permanent Lung Damage.
- 32,820,000 People w/ Permanent Heart Damage.
- 9,846,000 People w/ Strokes...
- 6,564,000 People w/ Muscle Weakness.
- 6,564,000 People w/ Loss of Cognitive Function.
The choice is not, “ruin the economy to save 1%.” If we reopen the economy, IT WILL BE DESTROYED ANYWAY! The U.S. economy cannot survive with everyone getting COVID-19.
This isn’t a media problem. This isn’t a political problem. This isn’t a public hysteria problem. This is a pandemic, and we know how to suppress it. We have a blueprint, laid out by other countries that have successfully suppressed the virus.
As has been said, there are many issues that a vaccine won’t help with: different strains, mutations, public confidence, anti-vaxers etc. What will help? Those two mitigation strategies that other countries have used to suppress the virus to the point that they have started to reopen their economies.
Wear your mask. Tell others to wear their mask. Socially distance yourself. Tell others to socially distance. Listen to the CDC and experts in epidemiology. And hope we start getting this advice from the federal government.

Originally Posted by Elismcpikle

Criminy! settle down... grab a smoke it’s all
going to be ok

Originally Posted by CALFO

I don’t know how you can talk about furlough estimates without talking about the current COVID situation in the US:

1. The US is severely lagging it’s Western piers. Reopening and forgoing masks will do nothing to change demand. Until the public feels safe traveling there will be massive furloughs.

2. The POTUS sets the stage and steers the course. His behavior and messaging on Covid has been worse than terrible. Lots of people hate him and lots of people love him. Whatever your opinion of Trump, the fact remains that he has botched this response and has led to instability.

3. Our inability to take even basic measures to improve our infection rate has resulted in the US traveler being shut out of canada, Europe, and more.

The US needs a cohesive federal response.

Originally Posted by CALFO

The US needs a cohesive federal response.

Originally Posted by Andy

No, that's the states' lane. Perhaps you'd like United management to tell you exactly how to fly your aircraft.

Originally Posted by jetlaggy

FAA sets how you can fly so everyone is on the same page