777A, 757-2, 767-3 Amazon subcontract
04-28-2020 | 10:41 AM
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777A, 757-2, 767-3 Amazon subcontract
SK please listen
I think
19 777As
50 some 757-2s
20 767-3s
Doing business as UNITED PRIME
will be an awesome deal if Kirby gets Bezos to do the conversion ($) split the new company 60%-40% owned by UAL Corp versus Amazon
and place 1750 if not more pilots to fly the new entity
win win and Amazon sure needs the lift from a class operation with great safety unlike no others
your thoughts
I think
19 777As
50 some 757-2s
20 767-3s
Doing business as UNITED PRIME
will be an awesome deal if Kirby gets Bezos to do the conversion ($) split the new company 60%-40% owned by UAL Corp versus Amazon
and place 1750 if not more pilots to fly the new entity
win win and Amazon sure needs the lift from a class operation with great safety unlike no others
your thoughts
04-28-2020 | 10:45 AM
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I like it but why do that when they can pay Mesa 70% less to fly 737s for Southern Air DBA Prime Air?
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04-28-2020 | 10:49 AM
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Bezos doesn't play with unions.
04-28-2020 | 11:02 AM
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I have thousands of hours flying ACMI freight. That industry is set up like the regional passenger model that we know and love. There isn’t much leverage to demand good pay when you’re fighting under the table with the rest of the companies to move someone else’s product. It’s a brutal business where the lowest bidder gets the contract. United already has a network. If they ever wanted to get back into the freight game, they would be better served doing what United or Northwest did in the past. Our cost and work rules would make competing with ACMI carriers like Atlas or Kalitta very difficult. They could, and would, undercut our bottom line every time.
04-28-2020 | 11:03 AM
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04-28-2020 | 11:10 AM
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SK please listen
I think
19 777As
50 some 757-2s
20 767-3s
Doing business as UNITED PRIME
will be an awesome deal if Kirby gets Bezos to do the conversion ($) split the new company 60%-40% owned by UAL Corp versus Amazon
and place 1750 if not more pilots to fly the new entity
win win and Amazon sure needs the lift from a class operation with great safety unlike no others
your thoughts
I think
19 777As
50 some 757-2s
20 767-3s
Doing business as UNITED PRIME
will be an awesome deal if Kirby gets Bezos to do the conversion ($) split the new company 60%-40% owned by UAL Corp versus Amazon
and place 1750 if not more pilots to fly the new entity
win win and Amazon sure needs the lift from a class operation with great safety unlike no others
your thoughts
Anyway, 89 airplanes to convert, how long will that take? And you want Bezos to pay for it all?
What's the yield on Amazon boxes and does Amazon need 89 airplanes in their operation?
Do you really want to play find the bottom basement yield with UPS and FedEx?
Do you really want to play find the pay scale bottom trying to compete with Mesa wages?
Maybe you heard that UAL's CAPEX faucet closed, completely, so the likelihood of this happening is about nil.
04-28-2020 | 11:14 AM
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How well do you remember the last 2 dedicated cargo efforts by United?
Anyway, 89 airplanes to convert, how long will that take? And you want Bezos to pay for it all?
What's the yield on Amazon boxes and does Amazon need 89 airplanes in their operation?
Do you really want to play find the bottom basement yield with UPS and FedEx?
Do you really want to play find the pay scale bottom trying to compete with Mesa wages?
Maybe you heard that UAL's CAPEX faucet closed, completely, so the likelihood of this happening is about nil.
Anyway, 89 airplanes to convert, how long will that take? And you want Bezos to pay for it all?
What's the yield on Amazon boxes and does Amazon need 89 airplanes in their operation?
Do you really want to play find the bottom basement yield with UPS and FedEx?
Do you really want to play find the pay scale bottom trying to compete with Mesa wages?
Maybe you heard that UAL's CAPEX faucet closed, completely, so the likelihood of this happening is about nil.
04-28-2020 | 11:20 AM
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Why would Amazon subcontract with United to fly freighters when they could utilize their existing carriers in ATI, ABX, Atlas and Southern for a LOT lower overhead and much more flexible workfules?
This is beyond fantasy and shows an utter lack of understanding about the Prime Air network.
What this awful industry turn very well could do, however, is provide Amazon the conversion feedstock necessary to grow Prime Air even more in the coming years...but it won't be with UALPA pilots.
This is beyond fantasy and shows an utter lack of understanding about the Prime Air network.
What this awful industry turn very well could do, however, is provide Amazon the conversion feedstock necessary to grow Prime Air even more in the coming years...but it won't be with UALPA pilots.
04-28-2020 | 11:38 AM
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