[QUOTE=idlethrust;3272735]Welcome to the United way. You’ll figure out women before you figure out this place.

 

I just talked with an old Xjet bubba (CPP) and he is in the 8/17 class. He rode Xjet till the end.

 

[QUOTE=idlethrust;3272735]Deciles could be in the hundreds. 1≠all

 

I don’t think anyone in Aviate has received class dates in August from my airline. Email they sent doesn’t seem to be very accurate and misleading. Seems to be better to go off the street than this program.

 

No one in my airline has received any class dates in August through Aviate. My boyfriend works for a different Aviate airline and it's the same news there...nothing!! Seems to me that the program is in a stand still or paused. Going off the street is faster. Know 2 people who interviewed OTS 2 months ago and got class dates in August. Few Aviate people I talked to at AW waiting patiently interviewed in 2019. Both of them are interviewing at different airlines this week feeling slighted and losing a lot of seniority at UAL. Personally, I don't know what I want to do. My bf is thinking Aviate cause he's new to the airlines and needs experience in the 121 world. I have my time and based on what is required in Aviate, exceed all of them, so I'm thinking OTS. Thoughts?

 

[QUOTE=Autopilotinop;3273523]No one in my airline has received any class dates in August through Aviate. My boyfriend works for a different Aviate airline and it's the same news there...nothing!! Seems to me that the program is in a stand still or paused. Going off the street is faster. Know 2 people who interviewed OTS 2 months ago and got class dates in August. Few Aviate people I talked to at AW waiting patiently interviewed in 2019. Both of them are interviewing at different airlines this week feeling slighted and losing a lot of seniority at UAL. Personally, I don't know what I want to do. My bf is thinking Aviate cause he's new to the airlines and needs experience in the 121 world. I have my time and based on what is required in Aviate, exceed all of them, so I'm thinking OTS. Thoughts?[/QUOTE

OTS
10000%
You will build seniority faster if you get in. People are loosing faith in this Aviate system . People off the street are getting in almost immediately but you will keep slaving away at the uax carrier for who knows how long .They say by March of 22 but as we all know that’s no guarantee.

 

It sounds like you are deciding whether to interview through Aviate or to try to get an interview off the street. I know other pilots who are also deciding whether to join an Aviate carrier or go to a non-Aviate carrier and try to get an interview OTS.
The question is, if you have a successful interview, which path will get you there more quickly?
As of now, the answer is off the street. The Aviate line is moving very slowly.
In the future, that may not be the case. But as of now it is.

 

OTS
10000%
You will build seniority faster if you get in. People are loosing faith in this Aviate system . People off the street are getting in almost immediately but you will keep slaving away at the uax carrier for who knows how long .They say by March of 22 but as we all know that’s no guarantee.

That's what I was leaning towards seeing the timeframe all these pilots are having to wait. I can see the frustration of waiting this long on their faces. I know getting into the program is not a CJO, but only a handful of people, maybe 6 or 7 have gotten a class date through Aviate since UAL started hiring this year. Appreciate your input friend. Definitely not as advertised.

 

Something else to consider is that you probably need to compare yourself to the average new hire. The average age is 40 with the commensurate time & experiences (LCA, CP, etc.). If that is you, then OTS is probably a good choice.

 

Thanks for your input. Are you an Aviate person? Has there been any other communication with you other than the email I read earlier? The 2 people I know at AW said that they received a survey or something, but nothing else. This is really on behalf of my bf. He's nervous of applying and getting stuck. He has atleast 2 yrs to meet the requirements, but he doesn't want to get stuck longer than he has to. Maybe he should try OTS too