I know of two that are leaving for f9.

 

pay has to increase. I’m certain United will have this conversation with Mesa & gojet

 

I don't know all the little details of aviate but what you are describing is how it has worked for the past 20 yrs. They have these preferred regionals or CPP or aviate which do nothing but put the really hungry people behind a stack of indifferent applicants. Take a look at any class and you see repeating group sizes. 50% of the hiring is military, 30% goes to big regionals like skywest or republic, and the rest is from all over. The really hungry people network their butts off EVERYWHERE and take the first decent job and you still keep your apps up to date and in primo condition until you are satisfied. The party can come to a screeching halt, new people could rethink Uniteds hiring matrix logic which has changed multiple times, or you could be at a LCC when they are bought or merged for better or worse. There have been multiple people from pretty big airlines in the past few classes and I know they were hired outside of aviate. Is that not a thing going forward?

If you go somewhere and pass the background checks, add a type, and no issues come up it is a selling point for you here at United. You are trainable and adaptable and are still applying to United... all good things. I don't think aviate is the fastest route here.

 

Email update

" in the coming weeks we plan to assign class dates to all eligible participants through the end of 2021."

 

They don’t need to increase pay.

It’s been proven in the past.

Just make it a more juicy carrot or dangle it closer.

 

United Mainline hiring mins this website says 1000 turbine. Is that total, or does that mean 1000 hrs multi-turbine PIC?

“All who meet our mins will hired by ....”

 

Aviate mins are not the same as hiring mins.

 

CJO’s are going out. Have any Aviate pilots received a class date over the past couple weeks?

 

I could see American, Southwest, FedEx, or UPS. But NetJets?? That's a time building job.

 

We’ve had captains leave for corporate at SkyWest. It usually doesn’t occur as an FO, but as a CA. I know two guys in my upgrade class who left for that lifestyle. I think it’s the stress that sometimes is involved as acting as PIC at the 121 level. Corporate is generally a lot more laidback, and oddly your work is appreciated more by the paying customer(s). It obviously feels a less like your herding cattle and being hawked for every move you make.

Those guys at NetJets are making 100k+ which is far less than UA, but everything isn’t just about the money.