That's a whole lotta "attaboys" required! After corporate vs 121, if the stress at 121 is eating you up, your doing it wrong. Do your job, help others do theirs but at the end of the day, it is what it is.

 

Yeah I agree, but I also don’t have to fly clapped out 145’s all day. Both guys were flying out of our 200 only hubs, I started to wonder if that was the cause…. Idk who knows.

I will say, I will never forget the hot summer days flying the deuce with no APU, absolutely MISERABLE, and the pax would let you have it too. The best part was when those POS’s broke down at an outstation with no APU.

 

When you’re a junior captain flying with new hires that shouldn’t have been signed off it starts to wear on you. I’ve seen several have a close call and immediately take the first job that came after.

 

If you were coming to a regional today, would the correct strategy be ...

If you want to fly for United, don’t fly for an Aviate regional, work for a Delta or American partner and get hired off the street?

Or is off the street hiring dead?

If not what is the typical total hours and TPIC of a non-mil, non-aviate off the street United mainline new hire?

Is United hiring FO only regional pilots who are flying for a DL or AA regional?

Seems like if United hires a Delta regional pilot United gains and Delta looses?

 

IMHO, avaite isn't dead. But if you already have a desirable application then avaite probably isn't the pool for you. In your case it may be a good option depending on the view. Some in the current pool will dissuade you because their experience wasn't the greatest (covid, 2 year wait, OTS getting in before them, lack of communication, leadership changes ect). I attribute most of these to growing pains of a badly timed new program.

From the beginning United has stated it intends Aviate to be a large portion of it's new hire classes (up 70% of hires was stated once). If this can be achieved depends on your view if Aviate can reach its full stride or if you believe the program is a larger marketing pitch than actual pipeline.

If you are looking for the fast pass to your desired carrier, the true ticket home is an internship. Pursue that whenever possible. Assuming that if you're looking at a regional, the timing may be late (UA allows applicants to be up to 1 year past graduation I believe).

 

Has the Aviate line started moving yet?

Mesa guys said no movement on their end. If they don’t hear this week, it will be 10 weeks since that first group got their class dates.

 

Air Wisconsin guy just told me they are moving. But I will say looks like for a person getting in now that’s a new hire, as long as you actually get accepted into the program should be worth it. I doubt you do a full 5 years at your regional should be much shorter. Just depends how UA decides to meter everyone in.

 

To determine movement shouldn’t we use xxx weeks since the last Mesa pilot was given a class date??

 

I believe it's likely all qualified candidates will be assigned a future class date this week or next. They've stated this, repeated it and doubled down on it. Maybe I'm just hopeful.

 

The answer is 10 weeks…yeah they said everyone gets a class date in September so we’ll see.