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06-22-2020 | 05:30 AM
#131
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Exactly. I’m a L-CAL guy and my friends were ****ed with the SLI. They claimed they lost so much seniority. I asked how? They claimed their percentage went down. When they explained it was obvious they were including all the UAL furloughs hired at CAL while waiting on merger integration as being part of the CAL pilot group. When I showed them that only including L-CAL people as was the correct method they ended up the same or slightly better, they weren’t buying it. Could talk until I was blue in the face and they didn’t understand you can’t mix the two. A pilot can’t work for two companies at once and be counted on both lists merging into one. So, yes, the drama comes from their unrealistic understanding of who was on each pre-merger list on the original date.
06-22-2020 | 05:56 AM
#132
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Exactly. I’m a L-CAL guy and my friends were ****ed with the SLI. They claimed they lost so much seniority. I asked how? They claimed their percentage went down. When they explained it was obvious they were including all the UAL furloughs hired at CAL while waiting on merger integration as being part of the CAL pilot group. When I showed them that only including L-CAL people as was the correct method they ended up the same or slightly better, they weren’t buying it. Could talk until I was blue in the face and they didn’t understand you can’t mix the two. A pilot can’t work for two companies at once and be counted on both lists merging into one. So, yes, the drama comes from their unrealistic understanding of who was on each pre-merger list on the original date.
06-22-2020 | 07:08 AM
#133
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I still find it fascinating that as a June 1997 L-UAL hire, the L-CAL proposal slotted me in with L-CAL November 2011 hires.
I never thought about it until I read a post above, I guess I could have been behind some UHires using their formula.
Fun times. Glad it's over for most of us.
Dog
I never thought about it until I read a post above, I guess I could have been behind some UHires using their formula.
Fun times. Glad it's over for most of us.
Dog
06-22-2020 | 08:35 AM
#134
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Could you expand on that? CAL did not have 2011 hires. L-UAL furloughed pilots started appearing on CAL list late 2011 and early 2012 though. Not sure how that could have been in the CAL proposal, as far fetched as it may have been.
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06-22-2020 | 02:59 PM
#138
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Joined: Apr 2015
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I still find it fascinating that as a June 1997 L-UAL hire, the L-CAL proposal slotted me in with L-CAL November 2011 hires.
I never thought about it until I read a post above, I guess I could have been behind some UHires using their formula.
Fun times. Glad it's over for most of us.
Dog
I never thought about it until I read a post above, I guess I could have been behind some UHires using their formula.
Fun times. Glad it's over for most of us.
Dog
06-22-2020 | 03:04 PM
#139
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This was based on the mythical 2013 merger date. They also wanted all the post-merger hires as CAL because that’s the side they were flying on. A total cluster****.
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