3900 (if not more)
07-30-2020 | 09:08 PM
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That being said, I don't think there will be anywhere close to the 3900 furloughs that they are stating. That's about 4 years worth of training when recalls would begin. If UAL has any inkling of being competitive in the future, those numbers just aren't feasible, especially when the competition isn't likely to come close to those furlough numbers. And how many 737 PI's of the 3900 does that encompass?
07-30-2020 | 09:10 PM
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let’s see how many take the plus option. They also have to recall in seniority order - plus or not.
07-30-2020 | 09:28 PM
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07-31-2020 | 04:41 AM
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Not saying it's an absolute givin', but I emailed TI about this and he said he's pretty sure the company is not going to try and get around it. And just seeing Spirit is giving their furloughed the pay out...
07-31-2020 | 05:19 AM
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That sounds about right from him. Hope everyone writes their reps...
07-31-2020 | 07:04 AM
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Note that ALL the airlines are rolling out "worst case" scenarios this week. There is a coordinated industrywide effort to publicize what will happen a month before the election without an extension to CARES.
If any pilot reading this has not followed through on the Call to Action YOU are part of the problem.
If any pilot reading this has not followed through on the Call to Action YOU are part of the problem.
07-31-2020 | 07:11 AM
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I saw a friends WARN letter and it clearly indicates he is entitled to furlough pay.
I have also also spoken with my reps and they have told me that they will not vote for any concessions to the contract.
I have also also spoken with my reps and they have told me that they will not vote for any concessions to the contract.
07-31-2020 | 07:44 AM
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Yet they voted 15-4 against a "No Concession" resolution? I guess their version of a concession is different than mine.
07-31-2020 | 07:53 AM
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There will be furlough pay for furloughees. It'd be idiotic for anyone to state otherwise.
07-31-2020 | 08:22 AM
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they can’t shrink that much and stay in business. They have to pay back 20 billion? 25? Iv lost count.....you can’t be 1/3 of your size and service your debt. Q saying we won’t be able to bring these pilots back from furlough or grow because we will be focusing on debt is an oxymoron. They better grow or they wil default! You can’t raise the debt of the worlds third largest airline and expect to service that debt when you are the size of a regional airline.
if they furlough this deep plus EOs bankruptcy is 100%. And CH 11 won’t be an option because there is no business plan that can show a viable company that is as small as United wil be, no one will invest. Iv said it before and Il say it again if United drops 4-5000 off its seniority list it will be out of business.
this is posturing folks.
if they furlough this deep plus EOs bankruptcy is 100%. And CH 11 won’t be an option because there is no business plan that can show a viable company that is as small as United wil be, no one will invest. Iv said it before and Il say it again if United drops 4-5000 off its seniority list it will be out of business.
this is posturing folks.
And if bookings don't pick up significantly, we may all find out what a much smaller United looks like. With or without a visit to the man in the black dress.
Besides, United is not the most vulnerable US airline right now. There are others with deeper financial problems. One doesn't have to look very hard to find them.
