Best/Worst case scenarios and arguments
09-18-2020 | 07:56 AM
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09-18-2020 | 08:07 AM
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Another view from another guy. Borrowed with permission.
<<• Dividing the Seniority List into 1/3 segments may be the most divisive thing I have ever heard of from ALPA
• Destroying the contractual cornerstone of our pay matrix is not the camel’s nose, but at least a hump, possibly two, into the tent. MPG is a term that means Minimum Pay Guarantee! It is your financial safety net, and we are literally going to give it away!
• People will say that very few people will get paid MPG, because they get paid LPV/PTC. In normal times, I might agree for lineholders, but nearly 100% of RSVs get paid MPG. Indeed, under the current plan, there will be a significantly increased RSV presence for months, if not years to come.
• People espousing LPV/PTC May be forgetting that MPG has been the driver of the Line Construction metric. Accordingly, if we are going to dramatically reduce MPG and have thousands of “extra” pilots on the payroll, then what will happen to Line Values? Well, we already know from the current fleets not doing much flying…Lines built to below MPG!
• Line Construction Floor (LCF), Line Construction Ceiling (LCC) and Line Production Average (LPA) are talked about as if they will not be touched. I’m here to say “That’s impossible!” However, you notice no-one is saying anything about it! What MPG will do is drag LCF waaaay down, but allow the Company to hold LCC at 90 hrs (current book on max hours), and LPA will be set anywhere the Company wants it.
• What the destruction of MPG does, therefore, is slash the costs to carry pilots, and allows the Company the flexibility to either slash LPAs towards MPG or build lines all the way up to 90hrs, as you can see for yourself from the System Parameters Document they’re required to include with PBS.
• Allowing such “variability” runs absolutely contrary to ALPA’s entire history of protections and is going to create significant angst with the current dislocations. Today, we have some fleets, seats and domiciles with virtually no flying, with MPG saving people’s livelihoods. However, we also have fleets, seats and domiciles that are running at full tilt, with Captain’s openly bragging of consecutive $50,000 MONTHS, and FOs regularly pulling down over $30,000! I don’t begrudge them their largesse, but start giving large swaths of the pilot group effective massive pay cuts, and we have just handed the Company a tool to create a furor!
• Pay. Do the math!
MPG reduction from 73 to 60 = 18% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 50 = 32% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 40 = 45% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 35 = 52% Pay cut
These cuts are WORSE THAN THE BANKRUPTCY!
MPG “only” went down to 65hrs in the C2003 Bankruptcy Contract, yet here we are, $17B in the bank, taking cuts GREATER than in Bankruptcy???
For what? Why?
• We are now hearing that the TA will run for years, while the furloughs are only delayed until the end of May??? And, what “long term gains” are we getting for such a ridiculous set-up??? First Class Deadhead? $11K LTD? Some kind of RSV improvement? These are TINY things in comparison to the MASSIVE reductions in pay.
• Lastly, for now, we have been SOLD THIS DEAL because it was the ultimate way of “Furlough Mitigation.” The Company came out and said they were going to furlough 2,250 pilots, in order to “right size.” ALPA agreed just to “talk” about mitigation ideas. Immediately, Carlson put out that the number was now NOT 2,250 (1,750 in Oct, 250 in Nov, and 250 in Dec), but had suddenly jumped to 3,900…or a convenient 1/3 of the pilot group, that allows for a nice clean “slice and dice” of the pilot group into 1/3rds!
However, it has become clear that this deal is NO LONGER a “furlough mitigation” deal, but a “furlough DEFERRAL” deal!
We give for years, two years was floating around yesterday, but furloughs only get delayed for a few months until the end of May, per Tony!
Now, I’ve seen some bad deals in my time, but come on!
This is not the time to throw away the foundational principles of our contract. IF this is the time, with $17B in the bank, what will they come back for in 2021, with “only $10B” in the bank? And if we get to $5B?
We need to stay strong, sit on our hands, and stop taking responsibility for the COMPANY’S DESIRE to furlough pilots AND DECIMATE OUR CONTRACT!
This is not our fault and we literally do not have the money to fix it for them! They just want us to pay for their “flexibility & variability” for a few years…while they STILL furlough pilots!>>
<<• Dividing the Seniority List into 1/3 segments may be the most divisive thing I have ever heard of from ALPA
• Destroying the contractual cornerstone of our pay matrix is not the camel’s nose, but at least a hump, possibly two, into the tent. MPG is a term that means Minimum Pay Guarantee! It is your financial safety net, and we are literally going to give it away!
• People will say that very few people will get paid MPG, because they get paid LPV/PTC. In normal times, I might agree for lineholders, but nearly 100% of RSVs get paid MPG. Indeed, under the current plan, there will be a significantly increased RSV presence for months, if not years to come.
• People espousing LPV/PTC May be forgetting that MPG has been the driver of the Line Construction metric. Accordingly, if we are going to dramatically reduce MPG and have thousands of “extra” pilots on the payroll, then what will happen to Line Values? Well, we already know from the current fleets not doing much flying…Lines built to below MPG!
• Line Construction Floor (LCF), Line Construction Ceiling (LCC) and Line Production Average (LPA) are talked about as if they will not be touched. I’m here to say “That’s impossible!” However, you notice no-one is saying anything about it! What MPG will do is drag LCF waaaay down, but allow the Company to hold LCC at 90 hrs (current book on max hours), and LPA will be set anywhere the Company wants it.
• What the destruction of MPG does, therefore, is slash the costs to carry pilots, and allows the Company the flexibility to either slash LPAs towards MPG or build lines all the way up to 90hrs, as you can see for yourself from the System Parameters Document they’re required to include with PBS.
• Allowing such “variability” runs absolutely contrary to ALPA’s entire history of protections and is going to create significant angst with the current dislocations. Today, we have some fleets, seats and domiciles with virtually no flying, with MPG saving people’s livelihoods. However, we also have fleets, seats and domiciles that are running at full tilt, with Captain’s openly bragging of consecutive $50,000 MONTHS, and FOs regularly pulling down over $30,000! I don’t begrudge them their largesse, but start giving large swaths of the pilot group effective massive pay cuts, and we have just handed the Company a tool to create a furor!
• Pay. Do the math!
MPG reduction from 73 to 60 = 18% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 50 = 32% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 40 = 45% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 35 = 52% Pay cut
These cuts are WORSE THAN THE BANKRUPTCY!
MPG “only” went down to 65hrs in the C2003 Bankruptcy Contract, yet here we are, $17B in the bank, taking cuts GREATER than in Bankruptcy???
For what? Why?
• We are now hearing that the TA will run for years, while the furloughs are only delayed until the end of May??? And, what “long term gains” are we getting for such a ridiculous set-up??? First Class Deadhead? $11K LTD? Some kind of RSV improvement? These are TINY things in comparison to the MASSIVE reductions in pay.
• Lastly, for now, we have been SOLD THIS DEAL because it was the ultimate way of “Furlough Mitigation.” The Company came out and said they were going to furlough 2,250 pilots, in order to “right size.” ALPA agreed just to “talk” about mitigation ideas. Immediately, Carlson put out that the number was now NOT 2,250 (1,750 in Oct, 250 in Nov, and 250 in Dec), but had suddenly jumped to 3,900…or a convenient 1/3 of the pilot group, that allows for a nice clean “slice and dice” of the pilot group into 1/3rds!
However, it has become clear that this deal is NO LONGER a “furlough mitigation” deal, but a “furlough DEFERRAL” deal!
We give for years, two years was floating around yesterday, but furloughs only get delayed for a few months until the end of May, per Tony!
Now, I’ve seen some bad deals in my time, but come on!
- The completely divisive carve up of the ISL
- Pay cuts in excess of bankruptcy
- Removal of our previously untouchable Minimum Pay Guarantee
- Expansion of our Line Construction parameters
- A slight delay in furloughs
- A few shiny objects brought forward from our TWO YEAR PAST DUE NEW UPA!
This is not the time to throw away the foundational principles of our contract. IF this is the time, with $17B in the bank, what will they come back for in 2021, with “only $10B” in the bank? And if we get to $5B?
We need to stay strong, sit on our hands, and stop taking responsibility for the COMPANY’S DESIRE to furlough pilots AND DECIMATE OUR CONTRACT!
This is not our fault and we literally do not have the money to fix it for them! They just want us to pay for their “flexibility & variability” for a few years…while they STILL furlough pilots!>>
09-18-2020 | 08:49 AM
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Another view from another guy. Borrowed with permission.
<<• Dividing the Seniority List into 1/3 segments may be the most divisive thing I have ever heard of from ALPA
• Destroying the contractual cornerstone of our pay matrix is not the camel’s nose, but at least a hump, possibly two, into the tent. MPG is a term that means Minimum Pay Guarantee! It is your financial safety net, and we are literally going to give it away!
• People will say that very few people will get paid MPG, because they get paid LPV/PTC. In normal times, I might agree for lineholders, but nearly 100% of RSVs get paid MPG. Indeed, under the current plan, there will be a significantly increased RSV presence for months, if not years to come.
• People espousing LPV/PTC May be forgetting that MPG has been the driver of the Line Construction metric. Accordingly, if we are going to dramatically reduce MPG and have thousands of “extra” pilots on the payroll, then what will happen to Line Values? Well, we already know from the current fleets not doing much flying…Lines built to below MPG!
• Line Construction Floor (LCF), Line Construction Ceiling (LCC) and Line Production Average (LPA) are talked about as if they will not be touched. I’m here to say “That’s impossible!” However, you notice no-one is saying anything about it! What MPG will do is drag LCF waaaay down, but allow the Company to hold LCC at 90 hrs (current book on max hours), and LPA will be set anywhere the Company wants it.
• What the destruction of MPG does, therefore, is slash the costs to carry pilots, and allows the Company the flexibility to either slash LPAs towards MPG or build lines all the way up to 90hrs, as you can see for yourself from the System Parameters Document they’re required to include with PBS.
• Allowing such “variability” runs absolutely contrary to ALPA’s entire history of protections and is going to create significant angst with the current dislocations. Today, we have some fleets, seats and domiciles with virtually no flying, with MPG saving people’s livelihoods. However, we also have fleets, seats and domiciles that are running at full tilt, with Captain’s openly bragging of consecutive $50,000 MONTHS, and FOs regularly pulling down over $30,000! I don’t begrudge them their largesse, but start giving large swaths of the pilot group effective massive pay cuts, and we have just handed the Company a tool to create a furor!
• Pay. Do the math!
MPG reduction from 73 to 60 = 18% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 50 = 32% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 40 = 45% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 35 = 52% Pay cut
These cuts are WORSE THAN THE BANKRUPTCY!
MPG “only” went down to 65hrs in the C2003 Bankruptcy Contract, yet here we are, $17B in the bank, taking cuts GREATER than in Bankruptcy???
For what? Why?
• We are now hearing that the TA will run for years, while the furloughs are only delayed until the end of May??? And, what “long term gains” are we getting for such a ridiculous set-up??? First Class Deadhead? $11K LTD? Some kind of RSV improvement? These are TINY things in comparison to the MASSIVE reductions in pay.
• Lastly, for now, we have been SOLD THIS DEAL because it was the ultimate way of “Furlough Mitigation.” The Company came out and said they were going to furlough 2,250 pilots, in order to “right size.” ALPA agreed just to “talk” about mitigation ideas. Immediately, Carlson put out that the number was now NOT 2,250 (1,750 in Oct, 250 in Nov, and 250 in Dec), but had suddenly jumped to 3,900…or a convenient 1/3 of the pilot group, that allows for a nice clean “slice and dice” of the pilot group into 1/3rds!
However, it has become clear that this deal is NO LONGER a “furlough mitigation” deal, but a “furlough DEFERRAL” deal!
We give for years, two years was floating around yesterday, but furloughs only get delayed for a few months until the end of May, per Tony!
Now, I’ve seen some bad deals in my time, but come on!
This is not the time to throw away the foundational principles of our contract. IF this is the time, with $17B in the bank, what will they come back for in 2021, with “only $10B” in the bank? And if we get to $5B?
We need to stay strong, sit on our hands, and stop taking responsibility for the COMPANY’S DESIRE to furlough pilots AND DECIMATE OUR CONTRACT!
This is not our fault and we literally do not have the money to fix it for them! They just want us to pay for their “flexibility & variability” for a few years…while they STILL furlough pilots!>>
<<• Dividing the Seniority List into 1/3 segments may be the most divisive thing I have ever heard of from ALPA
• Destroying the contractual cornerstone of our pay matrix is not the camel’s nose, but at least a hump, possibly two, into the tent. MPG is a term that means Minimum Pay Guarantee! It is your financial safety net, and we are literally going to give it away!
• People will say that very few people will get paid MPG, because they get paid LPV/PTC. In normal times, I might agree for lineholders, but nearly 100% of RSVs get paid MPG. Indeed, under the current plan, there will be a significantly increased RSV presence for months, if not years to come.
• People espousing LPV/PTC May be forgetting that MPG has been the driver of the Line Construction metric. Accordingly, if we are going to dramatically reduce MPG and have thousands of “extra” pilots on the payroll, then what will happen to Line Values? Well, we already know from the current fleets not doing much flying…Lines built to below MPG!
• Line Construction Floor (LCF), Line Construction Ceiling (LCC) and Line Production Average (LPA) are talked about as if they will not be touched. I’m here to say “That’s impossible!” However, you notice no-one is saying anything about it! What MPG will do is drag LCF waaaay down, but allow the Company to hold LCC at 90 hrs (current book on max hours), and LPA will be set anywhere the Company wants it.
• What the destruction of MPG does, therefore, is slash the costs to carry pilots, and allows the Company the flexibility to either slash LPAs towards MPG or build lines all the way up to 90hrs, as you can see for yourself from the System Parameters Document they’re required to include with PBS.
• Allowing such “variability” runs absolutely contrary to ALPA’s entire history of protections and is going to create significant angst with the current dislocations. Today, we have some fleets, seats and domiciles with virtually no flying, with MPG saving people’s livelihoods. However, we also have fleets, seats and domiciles that are running at full tilt, with Captain’s openly bragging of consecutive $50,000 MONTHS, and FOs regularly pulling down over $30,000! I don’t begrudge them their largesse, but start giving large swaths of the pilot group effective massive pay cuts, and we have just handed the Company a tool to create a furor!
• Pay. Do the math!
MPG reduction from 73 to 60 = 18% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 50 = 32% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 40 = 45% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 35 = 52% Pay cut
These cuts are WORSE THAN THE BANKRUPTCY!
MPG “only” went down to 65hrs in the C2003 Bankruptcy Contract, yet here we are, $17B in the bank, taking cuts GREATER than in Bankruptcy???
For what? Why?
• We are now hearing that the TA will run for years, while the furloughs are only delayed until the end of May??? And, what “long term gains” are we getting for such a ridiculous set-up??? First Class Deadhead? $11K LTD? Some kind of RSV improvement? These are TINY things in comparison to the MASSIVE reductions in pay.
• Lastly, for now, we have been SOLD THIS DEAL because it was the ultimate way of “Furlough Mitigation.” The Company came out and said they were going to furlough 2,250 pilots, in order to “right size.” ALPA agreed just to “talk” about mitigation ideas. Immediately, Carlson put out that the number was now NOT 2,250 (1,750 in Oct, 250 in Nov, and 250 in Dec), but had suddenly jumped to 3,900…or a convenient 1/3 of the pilot group, that allows for a nice clean “slice and dice” of the pilot group into 1/3rds!
However, it has become clear that this deal is NO LONGER a “furlough mitigation” deal, but a “furlough DEFERRAL” deal!
We give for years, two years was floating around yesterday, but furloughs only get delayed for a few months until the end of May, per Tony!
Now, I’ve seen some bad deals in my time, but come on!
- The completely divisive carve up of the ISL
- Pay cuts in excess of bankruptcy
- Removal of our previously untouchable Minimum Pay Guarantee
- Expansion of our Line Construction parameters
- A slight delay in furloughs
- A few shiny objects brought forward from our TWO YEAR PAST DUE NEW UPA!
This is not the time to throw away the foundational principles of our contract. IF this is the time, with $17B in the bank, what will they come back for in 2021, with “only $10B” in the bank? And if we get to $5B?
We need to stay strong, sit on our hands, and stop taking responsibility for the COMPANY’S DESIRE to furlough pilots AND DECIMATE OUR CONTRACT!
This is not our fault and we literally do not have the money to fix it for them! They just want us to pay for their “flexibility & variability” for a few years…while they STILL furlough pilots!>>
09-18-2020 | 04:43 PM
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Another view from another guy. Borrowed with permission.
<<• Dividing the Seniority List into 1/3 segments may be the most divisive thing I have ever heard of from ALPA
• Destroying the contractual cornerstone of our pay matrix is not the camel’s nose, but at least a hump, possibly two, into the tent. MPG is a term that means Minimum Pay Guarantee! It is your financial safety net, and we are literally going to give it away!
• People will say that very few people will get paid MPG, because they get paid LPV/PTC. In normal times, I might agree for lineholders, but nearly 100% of RSVs get paid MPG. Indeed, under the current plan, there will be a significantly increased RSV presence for months, if not years to come.
• People espousing LPV/PTC May be forgetting that MPG has been the driver of the Line Construction metric. Accordingly, if we are going to dramatically reduce MPG and have thousands of “extra” pilots on the payroll, then what will happen to Line Values? Well, we already know from the current fleets not doing much flying…Lines built to below MPG!
• Line Construction Floor (LCF), Line Construction Ceiling (LCC) and Line Production Average (LPA) are talked about as if they will not be touched. I’m here to say “That’s impossible!” However, you notice no-one is saying anything about it! What MPG will do is drag LCF waaaay down, but allow the Company to hold LCC at 90 hrs (current book on max hours), and LPA will be set anywhere the Company wants it.
• What the destruction of MPG does, therefore, is slash the costs to carry pilots, and allows the Company the flexibility to either slash LPAs towards MPG or build lines all the way up to 90hrs, as you can see for yourself from the System Parameters Document they’re required to include with PBS.
• Allowing such “variability” runs absolutely contrary to ALPA’s entire history of protections and is going to create significant angst with the current dislocations. Today, we have some fleets, seats and domiciles with virtually no flying, with MPG saving people’s livelihoods. However, we also have fleets, seats and domiciles that are running at full tilt, with Captain’s openly bragging of consecutive $50,000 MONTHS, and FOs regularly pulling down over $30,000! I don’t begrudge them their largesse, but start giving large swaths of the pilot group effective massive pay cuts, and we have just handed the Company a tool to create a furor!
• Pay. Do the math!
MPG reduction from 73 to 60 = 18% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 50 = 32% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 40 = 45% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 35 = 52% Pay cut
These cuts are WORSE THAN THE BANKRUPTCY!
MPG “only” went down to 65hrs in the C2003 Bankruptcy Contract, yet here we are, $17B in the bank, taking cuts GREATER than in Bankruptcy???
For what? Why?
• We are now hearing that the TA will run for years, while the furloughs are only delayed until the end of May??? And, what “long term gains” are we getting for such a ridiculous set-up??? First Class Deadhead? $11K LTD? Some kind of RSV improvement? These are TINY things in comparison to the MASSIVE reductions in pay.
• Lastly, for now, we have been SOLD THIS DEAL because it was the ultimate way of “Furlough Mitigation.” The Company came out and said they were going to furlough 2,250 pilots, in order to “right size.” ALPA agreed just to “talk” about mitigation ideas. Immediately, Carlson put out that the number was now NOT 2,250 (1,750 in Oct, 250 in Nov, and 250 in Dec), but had suddenly jumped to 3,900…or a convenient 1/3 of the pilot group, that allows for a nice clean “slice and dice” of the pilot group into 1/3rds!
However, it has become clear that this deal is NO LONGER a “furlough mitigation” deal, but a “furlough DEFERRAL” deal!
We give for years, two years was floating around yesterday, but furloughs only get delayed for a few months until the end of May, per Tony!
Now, I’ve seen some bad deals in my time, but come on!
This is not the time to throw away the foundational principles of our contract. IF this is the time, with $17B in the bank, what will they come back for in 2021, with “only $10B” in the bank? And if we get to $5B?
We need to stay strong, sit on our hands, and stop taking responsibility for the COMPANY’S DESIRE to furlough pilots AND DECIMATE OUR CONTRACT!
This is not our fault and we literally do not have the money to fix it for them! They just want us to pay for their “flexibility & variability” for a few years…while they STILL furlough pilots!>>
<<• Dividing the Seniority List into 1/3 segments may be the most divisive thing I have ever heard of from ALPA
• Destroying the contractual cornerstone of our pay matrix is not the camel’s nose, but at least a hump, possibly two, into the tent. MPG is a term that means Minimum Pay Guarantee! It is your financial safety net, and we are literally going to give it away!
• People will say that very few people will get paid MPG, because they get paid LPV/PTC. In normal times, I might agree for lineholders, but nearly 100% of RSVs get paid MPG. Indeed, under the current plan, there will be a significantly increased RSV presence for months, if not years to come.
• People espousing LPV/PTC May be forgetting that MPG has been the driver of the Line Construction metric. Accordingly, if we are going to dramatically reduce MPG and have thousands of “extra” pilots on the payroll, then what will happen to Line Values? Well, we already know from the current fleets not doing much flying…Lines built to below MPG!
• Line Construction Floor (LCF), Line Construction Ceiling (LCC) and Line Production Average (LPA) are talked about as if they will not be touched. I’m here to say “That’s impossible!” However, you notice no-one is saying anything about it! What MPG will do is drag LCF waaaay down, but allow the Company to hold LCC at 90 hrs (current book on max hours), and LPA will be set anywhere the Company wants it.
• What the destruction of MPG does, therefore, is slash the costs to carry pilots, and allows the Company the flexibility to either slash LPAs towards MPG or build lines all the way up to 90hrs, as you can see for yourself from the System Parameters Document they’re required to include with PBS.
• Allowing such “variability” runs absolutely contrary to ALPA’s entire history of protections and is going to create significant angst with the current dislocations. Today, we have some fleets, seats and domiciles with virtually no flying, with MPG saving people’s livelihoods. However, we also have fleets, seats and domiciles that are running at full tilt, with Captain’s openly bragging of consecutive $50,000 MONTHS, and FOs regularly pulling down over $30,000! I don’t begrudge them their largesse, but start giving large swaths of the pilot group effective massive pay cuts, and we have just handed the Company a tool to create a furor!
• Pay. Do the math!
MPG reduction from 73 to 60 = 18% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 50 = 32% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 40 = 45% Pay cut
MPG reduction from 73 to 35 = 52% Pay cut
These cuts are WORSE THAN THE BANKRUPTCY!
MPG “only” went down to 65hrs in the C2003 Bankruptcy Contract, yet here we are, $17B in the bank, taking cuts GREATER than in Bankruptcy???
For what? Why?
• We are now hearing that the TA will run for years, while the furloughs are only delayed until the end of May??? And, what “long term gains” are we getting for such a ridiculous set-up??? First Class Deadhead? $11K LTD? Some kind of RSV improvement? These are TINY things in comparison to the MASSIVE reductions in pay.
• Lastly, for now, we have been SOLD THIS DEAL because it was the ultimate way of “Furlough Mitigation.” The Company came out and said they were going to furlough 2,250 pilots, in order to “right size.” ALPA agreed just to “talk” about mitigation ideas. Immediately, Carlson put out that the number was now NOT 2,250 (1,750 in Oct, 250 in Nov, and 250 in Dec), but had suddenly jumped to 3,900…or a convenient 1/3 of the pilot group, that allows for a nice clean “slice and dice” of the pilot group into 1/3rds!
However, it has become clear that this deal is NO LONGER a “furlough mitigation” deal, but a “furlough DEFERRAL” deal!
We give for years, two years was floating around yesterday, but furloughs only get delayed for a few months until the end of May, per Tony!
Now, I’ve seen some bad deals in my time, but come on!
- The completely divisive carve up of the ISL
- Pay cuts in excess of bankruptcy
- Removal of our previously untouchable Minimum Pay Guarantee
- Expansion of our Line Construction parameters
- A slight delay in furloughs
- A few shiny objects brought forward from our TWO YEAR PAST DUE NEW UPA!
This is not the time to throw away the foundational principles of our contract. IF this is the time, with $17B in the bank, what will they come back for in 2021, with “only $10B” in the bank? And if we get to $5B?
We need to stay strong, sit on our hands, and stop taking responsibility for the COMPANY’S DESIRE to furlough pilots AND DECIMATE OUR CONTRACT!
This is not our fault and we literally do not have the money to fix it for them! They just want us to pay for their “flexibility & variability” for a few years…while they STILL furlough pilots!>>
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