The Delta MEC and Delta Air Lines Reach An Ag
10-29-2020, 09:18 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
Ok I’m just not seeing how this is good for Delta. I’m going over it in my head and it just doesn’t make sense.
the United deal keeps everyone current and a good chunk of pilots in their previous seats. We all fly, we all stay current we all attend CQ. If the company adds 7 lines of flying to IAH 320 the day before bids open the pilots are there to absorb that. That makes sense to me.
the Delta deal says we’ll give the UNA pilots 30 hours a month and we’ll let you know when we need you.....that’s a paid furlough!!!! Why would they do that? What benefit does that give DL if their pilots aren’t current?
what am I missing?
the United deal keeps everyone current and a good chunk of pilots in their previous seats. We all fly, we all stay current we all attend CQ. If the company adds 7 lines of flying to IAH 320 the day before bids open the pilots are there to absorb that. That makes sense to me.
the Delta deal says we’ll give the UNA pilots 30 hours a month and we’ll let you know when we need you.....that’s a paid furlough!!!! Why would they do that? What benefit does that give DL if their pilots aren’t current?
what am I missing?
The UNAs will still get health insurance, 401k and can get outside job to supplement their income.
Also lower over time triggers, positive space to work for a year and new retirement accounts for those who want to.
10-29-2020, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis
10-29-2020, 10:22 PM
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Aren’t we supposed to benefit from pattern bargaining? DALPA needs only fo us on the bright shiny objects. Worked for UAL pilots. Don’t you Delta guys want First Class DH? And what about increased LTD? Oh and a 5% pay raise***. Throw all these things in and at least 58% will vote yes. Ya just need to know how to craft it to sell it.
*** 5 % pay raise only realized after 16 straight quarters of 8% of Better net profit
*** 5 % pay raise only realized after 16 straight quarters of 8% of Better net profit
10-29-2020, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Big5
Aren’t we supposed to benefit from pattern bargaining? DALPA needs only fo us on the bright shiny objects. Worked for UAL pilots. Don’t you Delta guys want First Class DH? And what about increased LTD? Oh and a 5% pay raise***. Throw all these things in and at least 58% will vote yes. Ya just need to know how to craft it to sell it.
*** 5 % pay raise only realized after 16 straight quarters of 8% of Better net profit
*** 5 % pay raise only realized after 16 straight quarters of 8% of Better net profit
10-29-2020, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
This bright spark talked tough about voting to furlough himself so he could get a better job. In fact, this gig’s miserable enough to him that he’s still here despite multiple LOA options being made available. Draw your own conclusions, Delta guys....
10-30-2020, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Neither does ours. I’m no TI fan or cheerleader but at least be mad about factual things.
10-30-2020, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun
You think I’m commenting about whether or not he still possesses it? The sheer fact that it was offered and not publicly rescinded was bad enough. I honestly think he enjoyed divisions it caused.
10-30-2020, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
It was publicly rescinded if you looked, and read your email. Did you want him to call you personally? It’s been offered to (and declined) by every MEC that’s qualified for it.
10-30-2020, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
It was publicly rescinded if you looked, and read your email. Did you want him to call you personally? It’s been offered to (and declined) by every MEC that’s qualified for it.
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