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Old 03-01-2022 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
Stop ground instructing. Go fly. Instruct later, way later..
Is teaching not a good way to diversify and build a resume? Thousands of regional pilots have hours.
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Old 03-01-2022 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jrydel
Is teaching not a good way to diversify and build a resume? Thousands of regional pilots have hours.
Sure but not at the expense of hours & experience imo. Get the core time first, then build on that. Time as a CA is valuable, both for professional enrichment and for points on an app. Being a ground instructor doesn't come close to that- its just not where you build *in flight* decision making, leadership, interpersonal skills, crm, customer service skills, etc etc. And those skills are built better on the line vs in the training dept, and I've done both fwiw.
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Old 03-01-2022 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
Didn’t cal new hires get the 757 because the jr trips were to dh to Europe (in coach for half pay) and fly back as the bunky? I would probably go to the guppy if that was my future as well.
lCal's Concessionary Contract '02 went into effect April 1, 2005.

DH pay @ 50% from April 1,2005-April 1, 2006.
DH pay @ 50% from April 1,2006-April 1, 2007.
DH pay resumed @ 100% April 1, 2007.

Lot of 77 FOs went to 756 Captain because pre-FAR 117 lCal did a lot of DH to/IRO back trips (2 or 3 pilots required over, 3 or 4 pilots required back). Pre-117 the max hours were 120/month with no rest required on the back end, and pilots could easily make 150+/month doing DH/IRO back trips.




Originally Posted by jrydel
Any advice on the best path to UA? I’m currently a regional FO and ground instructor. I will be upgrading soon, and could also potentially become a sim instructor/SCA. I also have lots of friends leaving for ULCCs. Flying and teaching at UA is my ultimate goal, so I’m wondering what path makes me most attractive.
They know you can fly, and ANYONE applying needs to upgrade ASAP since they are very close to 2 year 73 Captains again, and they want to know you've already had those "Oh shi*, I made a bad decision but survived and learned from it." moments already with a RJ, not on an icy night going into La Garbage with a 73.

They want to see that you care about something other than yourself. Show them some volunteer time, be it Young Eagles, or at an animal rescue center. When someone comes in and they tell me once a month they go down and clean cat ****, that tells me they're not just a self-centered pilot but have a bit of humility.

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Old 03-01-2022 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by duvie
As a post merger hire...
You should have stopped right there.

Your following comments were the equivalent of "I'm a flight attendant who has never flown a plane but let me tell you everything you did wrong on that landing."

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Old 03-01-2022 | 09:04 PM
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D'oh!!!! DH pay from April 1,2006-April 1, 2007 corrected, should be @75%.


lCal's Concessionary Contract '02 went into effect April 1, 2005.

DH pay @ 50% from April 1,2005-April 1, 2006.
DH pay @ 75% from April 1,2006-April 1, 2007.
DH pay resumed @ 100% April 1, 2007.

Lot of 77 FOs went to 756 Captain because pre-FAR 117 lCal did a lot of DH to/IRO back trips (2 or 3 pilots required over, 3 or 4 pilots required back). Pre-117 the max hours were 120/month with no rest required on the back end, and pilots could easily make 150+/month doing DH/IRO back trips.
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Old 03-02-2022 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdog
lCal's Concessionary Contract '02 went into effect April 1, 2005.

DH pay @ 50% from April 1,2005-April 1, 2006.
DH pay @ 50% from April 1,2006-April 1, 2007.
DH pay resumed @ 100% April 1, 2007.

Lot of 77 FOs went to 756 Captain because pre-FAR 117 lCal did a lot of DH to/IRO back trips (2 or 3 pilots required over, 3 or 4 pilots required back). Pre-117 the max hours were 120/month with no rest required on the back end, and pilots could easily make 150+/month doing DH/IRO back trips.






They know you can fly, and ANYONE applying needs to upgrade ASAP since they are very close to 2 year 73 Captains again, and they want to know you've already had those "Oh shi*, I made a bad decision but survived and learned from it." moments already with a RJ, not on an icy night going into La Garbage with a 73.

They want to see that you care about something other than yourself. Show them some volunteer time, be it Young Eagles, or at an animal rescue center. When someone comes in and they tell me once a month they go down and clean cat ****, that tells me they're not just a self-centered pilot but have a bit of humility.
Or, as I’ve found with my informal polling of f/o’s I fly with, they’re playing the game United wants played. As soon as they’re hired, the days of volunteering at the lepper colony are over. I wish pilot hiring was based on pilot stuff, not touchy-feely stuff, but them’s the current rules.
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Old 03-03-2022 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jrydel
Is teaching not a good way to diversify and build a resume? Thousands of regional pilots have hours.
I was a ground instructor, LCA, and SCA. I was called long after many of my friends who just kept grinding it out on the line. With all the hiring going on, having lots of extra leadership on your resume is not as important as it used to be.
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