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04-07-2021, 09:06 AM
#81
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Originally Posted by GA2Jets
Explain to me what about having XX chromasomes means you are destined to be more likely a nurse than a pilot. Absent society's influence, it should be much much closer to even.
04-07-2021, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by GA2Jets
Explain to me what about having XX chromasomes means you are destined to be more likely a nurse than a pilot. Absent society's influence, it should be much much closer to even.
04-07-2021, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GA2Jets
Y'all are making me nuts about this. They are proposing more outreach programs to achieve diversity. As in, encouraging more people to do the jobs, meeting women and people of color who are pilots. You're gonna tell me promoting things like field trips, discovery flights and cockpit tours etc are too woke??
Never ONE TIME has anyone suggested that we should simply waive the performance requirements for being a pilot.
Never ONE TIME has anyone suggested that we should simply waive the performance requirements for being a pilot.
It's already happening in the rest of Corporate America. It doesn't work in Aviation. Outreach is absolutely not an issue. Selective hiring based on race/gender is.
04-07-2021, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne
The literal chemical makeup of a woman's brain leads her to be more empathetic and more nurturing. There are countless peer reviewed studies about this. It's evolutionary.
04-07-2021, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AAL763
Science has proven my point time and time again. As the guy above me stated, women and men are wired differently. It’s been that way since life began, and it will be that way until the end of days. Women are wired to be more of a nurturer by nature. Therefore, it makes sense that the vast majority of them will also take jobs that suit those ideals: nurses, teachers, etc.
Women have to make huge sacrifices to become pilots, and the ones I know who chose to pursue this career vs. raising kids are excellent pilots. But they are also often unmarried and have no children. And they're OK with that. More power to 'em.
The biggest irony is that the feminist crowd is now more concerned about advocating for biological men than biological women. But that's a whole other topic.
04-07-2021, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by GA2Jets
Y'all are making me nuts about this. They are proposing more outreach programs to achieve diversity. As in, encouraging more people to do the jobs, meeting women and people of color who are pilots. You're gonna tell me promoting things like field trips, discovery flights and cockpit tours etc are too woke??
Never ONE TIME has anyone suggested that we should simply waive the performance requirements for being a pilot.
Never ONE TIME has anyone suggested that we should simply waive the performance requirements for being a pilot.
04-07-2021, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by AAL763
Perhaps because women are, by their nature, prone to want to have children and raise them? A flying career makes that pretty damn hard to do. Hence, why you just won’t find the number of women interested in the job as you will men. It’s not some secret sexist plan to suppress women from the cockpit, it’s just human nature. Last time I checked, there weren’t any barriers to entry into flight schools if you were a certain race/gender. Oh wait.... Now there will be if you are a white male....
Regarding the financial barriers, do minorities/women not have access to loans, or are loans only available to white males? I also can recall the numerous scholarship opportunities at UND/ERAU available ONLY to women and/or POC. Some barrier I tell ya...
Regarding the financial barriers, do minorities/women not have access to loans, or are loans only available to white males? I also can recall the numerous scholarship opportunities at UND/ERAU available ONLY to women and/or POC. Some barrier I tell ya...
Good article here with more info https://www.cntraveler.com/story/why...-female-pilots
04-07-2021, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by GA2Jets
But not 10x more, no. The discrepancy in aviation isn't a small gradient, it's huge! If you want to defend a 60/40 ratio, we can have a discussion about brain chem. But 95/5? Riddle me that.
Again, it should be a huge discrepancy based on a myriad of factors - several of which have already been discussed.
04-07-2021, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne
There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, until the "goal" becomes a "quota" and John Q Qualified Pilot is overlooked for Adrianna Q Pilot with multiple checkride or training failures - for the sake of checking a box.
It's already happening in the rest of Corporate America. It doesn't work in Aviation. Outreach is absolutely not an issue. Selective hiring based on race/gender is.
It's already happening in the rest of Corporate America. It doesn't work in Aviation. Outreach is absolutely not an issue. Selective hiring based on race/gender is.
04-07-2021, 09:21 AM
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P.S. - Obama’s FAA tried this same **** just 6 years ago in regards to ATC hiring. They just packaged it up a different way. They got rid of the CTI school/military requirement and instead instituted a biographical questionnaire that was actively seeking out less qualified individuals. If you got good grades, were good at math, played multiple sports, multiple extra-curriculars, you scored less points than those who did not. The stated goal from the FAA themselves? To “diversify the workforce”. As you can imagine, the washout rate at the FAA academy went through the roof. Hell, many of them failed the drug test after on boarding, or just never even bothered to show up.
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