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Old 08-08-2021 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Drum
She never specified delta or other. It was a generic statement.


Does not stop transmission.


Nice try.

You cbreezys other account?
Now that Delta is the dominant variant, what do you think she was talking about? Let me change my characterization of "deliberately taking things out of context" to "deliberately obtuse".

And, yeah, in 2010 I set up this "other" account and posted 289 times over the last decade just to mess with you.

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Old 08-08-2021 | 03:27 PM
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I don’t watch soccer a bunch but have seen the yellow card a few times. Check this out


Up to and including 28 July 2021, the MHRA received and analysed 98,432 UK Yellow Cards from people who have received the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. These reports include a total of 275,820 suspected reactions (i.e. a single report may contain more than one symptom). The first report was received on 9 December 2020.

Up to and including 28 July 2021, the MHRA received and analysed a total of 225,871 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca. These reports include a total of 806,085 suspected reactions (a single report may contain more than one symptom). The first report was received on 4 January 2021.

Up to and including 28 July 2021, the MHRA received and analysed a total of 11,783 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna. These include a total 35,207 suspected reactions (a single report may contain more than one symptom). The first report was received on 7 April 2021.

Additionally, up to and including 28 July 2021, the MHRA received 978 Yellow Card reports where the brand of vaccine was not specified by the reporter.

In the week since the previous summary for 21 July 2021 we have received a further 3,392 Yellow Cards for the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, 1,619 for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 793 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 20 where the brand was not specified.

It is important to note that Yellow Card data cannot be used to derive side effect rates or compare the safety profile of COVID-19 vaccinations as many factors can influence ADR reporting

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...card-reporting
Old 08-08-2021 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Flydafe
I don’t watch soccer a bunch but have seen the yellow card a few times. Check this out


Up to and including 28 July 2021, the MHRA received and analysed 98,432 UK Yellow Cards from people who have received the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. These reports include a total of 275,820 suspected reactions (i.e. a single report may contain more than one symptom). The first report was received on 9 December 2020.

Up to and including 28 July 2021, the MHRA received and analysed a total of 225,871 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca. These reports include a total of 806,085 suspected reactions (a single report may contain more than one symptom). The first report was received on 4 January 2021.

Up to and including 28 July 2021, the MHRA received and analysed a total of 11,783 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna. These include a total 35,207 suspected reactions (a single report may contain more than one symptom). The first report was received on 7 April 2021.

Additionally, up to and including 28 July 2021, the MHRA received 978 Yellow Card reports where the brand of vaccine was not specified by the reporter.

In the week since the previous summary for 21 July 2021 we have received a further 3,392 Yellow Cards for the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, 1,619 for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 793 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 20 where the brand was not specified.

It is important to note that Yellow Card data cannot be used to derive side effect rates or compare the safety profile of COVID-19 vaccinations as many factors can influence ADR reporting

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...card-reporting
Weird, you omitted the first paragraph:

At the time of this report, over 129,618 people across the UK have died within 28 days of a positive test for coronavirus (COVID-19). Vaccination is the single most effective way to reduce deaths and severe illness from COVID-19. A national immunisation campaign has been underway since early December 2020.”

and you didn’t mention this paragraph either:

”For all COVID-19 vaccines, the overwhelming majority of reports relate to injection-site reactions (sore arm for example) and generalised symptoms such as ‘flu-like’ illness, headache, chills, fatigue (tiredness), nausea (feeling sick), fever, dizziness, weakness, aching muscles, and rapid heartbeat. Generally, these happen shortly after the vaccination and are not associated with more serious or lasting illness.”
Old 08-08-2021 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp
You agreed with a previous post! Thanks for adding to the pages!
So I can only agree with one post? Do you have a link to the form rules that states that? Thanks in advance!
Old 08-08-2021 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Drum
Today a vaccine card
Tomorrow?


Sad you can't see the train coming at you.
Tomorrow Obama takes your gun.
Old 08-08-2021 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
Oh yes, I see that now. Your initial post quoted me calling someone out for making that comparison & I mistook you for him. Please accept my apologies for that.

As far as no longer paying attention to the experts, respectfully, I think this is an enormous error. Science makes mistakes but trends toward greater accuracy & consensus over time. We are still early on in our understanding of this virus. Couple that with the fact that the virus itself is changing, it follows that our understanding of it is also changing a lot. I’ll even consent there are lots of conflicting studies out there. But fewer today than there were a year ago, and fewer next year than today.

I get how frustrating it can be to feel like what they told you yesterday they are contradicting today, but that is to some degree the nature of a dynamic situation. Don’t fall into the trap of thinking just because the CDC reversed its guidance of mask wearing, they’ve become equal in credibility to a guy peddling baseless theories on YouTube. I can find you someone with an MD attached to their name that will be willing to confirm almost any medical nonsense you can come up with, just like I can find a meteorologist who lives in a floodplain or a pilot who has no business flying an airplane.

The best we can do is to look at the experts, not individually, but as a whole. Follow the most upheld & legitimate studies. They’re not always right, but they are much more frequently than you or I making gut-based opinions.
In the current climate how are we supposed to determine the most upheld and legitimate studies? I hate sounding like a conspiracy theorist but these days you can bet that any news (including COVID studies) that run counter to the “accepted” narrative are censored or at least subject to selective distribution. To be honest I’ve been conditioned in the past year to believe those storylines more than the ones that make it to the mainstream.

I think your point about not “dying on the hill” of the vaccine mandate at these private companies is well-intentioned. In the end it could very well prove to be sound advice. It’s also possible that the people who chose not to get the vaccine at any cost could end up being the smart ones. Who knows. But it’s something each person has to decide for himself.

Regarding following the experts as a whole....that’s kinda why we’re where we are as a society, and why we’re having this discussion. When looking at the Covid response through the broader lens of all the politics, unrest, mudslinging, and media gaslighting over the last year, how can anyone be surprised that we’re divided over the vaccines as well?
Old 08-08-2021 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GolferNJ
Weird, you omitted the first paragraph:

At the time of this report, over 129,618 people across the UK have died within 28 days of a positive test for coronavirus (COVID-19). Vaccination is the single most effective way to reduce deaths and severe illness from COVID-19. A national immunisation campaign has been underway since early December 2020.”

and you didn’t mention this paragraph either:

”For all COVID-19 vaccines, the overwhelming majority of reports relate to injection-site reactions (sore arm for example) and generalised symptoms such as ‘flu-like’ illness, headache, chills, fatigue (tiredness), nausea (feeling sick), fever, dizziness, weakness, aching muscles, and rapid heartbeat. Generally, these happen shortly after the vaccination and are not associated with more serious or lasting illness.”
That’s why I posted the link dude. You can interpret the info as you desire but the point is the amount of data being collected and published compared to the U.S.

you did see that link I posted of the victims of the vaccines sharing their testimonies to the public right? Some Ohio politician hosted the event I believe and gave those women a platform to share their experiences. That was the first time I’d seen any kind of adverse side effects of the vaccines.
Old 08-08-2021 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Flydafe
That’s why I posted the link dude. You can interpret the info as you desire but the point is the amount of data being collected and published compared to the U.S.

you did see that link I posted of the victims of the vaccines sharing their testimonies to the public right? Some Ohio politician hosted the event I believe and gave those women a platform to share their experiences. That was the first time I’d seen any kind of adverse side effects of the vaccines.
What you did was pull paragraphs out of context to support your “theories”. You did no statistical analysis of the data or any critical thinking and then omitted the findings of the people who actually did the hard work and conducted the study!

Why do I need to see a video of people who had adverse side effects to the vaccine? I know people have adverse side effects to Tylenol, but I still use it. Out of 4.4 billion doses what percentage do the people in the video account for?
Old 08-08-2021 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GolferNJ
What you did was pull paragraphs out of context to support your “theories”. You did no statistical analysis of the data or any critical thinking and then omitted the findings of the people who actually did the hard work and conducted the study!

Why do I need to see a video of people who had adverse side effects to the vaccine? I know people have adverse side effects to Tylenol, but I still use it. Out of 4.4 billion doses what percentage do the people in the video account for?
That’s why I posted the link. You did the grown up thing and actually read the yellow card report.

You really don’t have to watch the video dude. It’s not about why you have to do anything. I don’t care if you took the jab or not. What it’s really about is the silence being broken about how safe these experimental drugs are. The public is finally getting a chance to speak without being censored through the media. There will be more events like the one that just happened. Glad there is a politician that has the compassion to give way to his constituents.
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So the FDA admits the PCR test doesn't isolate COVID otherwise known as the SARS-CoV-2 strain. The vaccine don't protect your from Covid and they never produced a single sample of COVID 19.

This whole disease is the seasonal flu you sheep! Show me the evidence COVID even exists! You cant!

You all took these mRNA drugs to prop up the balance sheats of big pharma...4 billion last quarter alone and now your health is in question...
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