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Old 07-30-2021 | 10:29 AM
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Let’s get some things straightened out regarding these “variants”. COVID-19 is caused by the SARS-Cov-2 virus. According to researchers, This virus is 78% similar to the original SARS-Cov-1 virus that was around in the early 2000s. Early on in the pandemic, because of its similarities researchers wanted to see if people that had gotten infected with, and recovered from SARS-Cov-1 still had any antibodies/natural immunity from the current SARS-Cov-2 strain. So they examined blood samples from some of these people and discovered that yes they did have antibodies/immunity from SARS-Cov-2. Now fast forward to the current situation with some of these variants of SARS-Cov-2 (ie Delta variant). According to a former Phizer VP and molecular biologist, these variants are no more than 0.3% different than the original strain. Said another way, its 99.7% similar. So, the next obvious question is: If someone that had SARS-Cov-1, which is 78% similar to the SARS-Cov-2, still retains natural immunity, then how can someone with a vaccine against SARS-Cov-2 not be protected from a variant that is 99.7% similar to the original strain??? That doesn’t make sense. Then the only question left to ask is: Why isn’t the vaccine protecting someone from a variant that is only 0.3% different?? My conclusion from that information is that this EUA vaccine is not performing the way it was intended. My conclusions are just that, mine. But you can read this information and form your own opinion.
Human DNA is 99% similar to chimpanzees. As far as using % similarity to draw conclusions (or invalidate one) I'd ask what was the specific coding or expression in the DNA that is different?
Old 07-30-2021 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by flightmedic01
Let’s get some things straightened out regarding these “variants”. COVID-19 is caused by the SARS-Cov-2 virus. According to researchers, This virus is 78% similar to the original SARS-Cov-1 virus that was around in the early 2000s. Early on in the pandemic, because of its similarities researchers wanted to see if people that had gotten infected with, and recovered from SARS-Cov-1 still had any antibodies/natural immunity from the current SARS-Cov-2 strain. So they examined blood samples from some of these people and discovered that yes they did have antibodies/immunity from SARS-Cov-2. Now fast forward to the current situation with some of these variants of SARS-Cov-2 (ie Delta variant). According to a former Phizer VP and molecular biologist, these variants are no more than 0.3% different than the original strain. Said another way, its 99.7% similar. So, the next obvious question is: If someone that had SARS-Cov-1, which is 78% similar to the SARS-Cov-2, still retains natural immunity, then how can someone with a vaccine against SARS-Cov-2 not be protected from a variant that is 99.7% similar to the original strain??? That doesn’t make sense. Then the only question left to ask is: Why isn’t the vaccine protecting someone from a variant that is only 0.3% different?? My conclusion from that information is that this EUA vaccine is not performing the way it was intended. My conclusions are just that, mine. But you can read this information and form your own opinion.
Do you have a journal article reference for SARS-COV-1 antibodies conferring immunity for COVID? I had read a few studies that claimed common cold coronavirus didn’t reduce infection rates, but did reduce severity of the study group. Seems pretty similar to what is happening to vaccine-induced reponse to the CV variants with the exception that the vaccines provide immunity, just at a lower rate.
Old 07-30-2021 | 12:16 PM
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I bet all the people who ran out and got vaxxed feel like suckers now.
Mark Twain said it best. "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled”
Old 07-30-2021 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Wingedbeast
I bet all the people who ran out and got vaxxed feel like suckers now.
It was just a couple shots, not too bad.
Old 07-30-2021 | 12:36 PM
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Do you have a journal article reference for SARS-COV-1 antibodies conferring immunity for COVID? I had read a few studies that claimed common cold coronavirus didn’t reduce infection rates, but did reduce severity of the study group. Seems pretty similar to what is happening to vaccine-induced reponse to the CV variants with the exception that the vaccines provide immunity, just at a lower rate.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s415..._reference.pdf
Old 07-30-2021 | 01:16 PM
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Old 07-30-2021 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by flightmedic01
Of course, you attack the individuals instead of the information. Have you read anything these people have published?? (Although Google/YouTube probably pulled it). I could have listed many more, but I figured you can type information into a search engine other than Google. And hell yeah I’d take that “cocktail”!! He’s shown that it works!! But you wont hear that in the MSM because that doesn’t fit the narrative of getting a shot in every arm. All three of those medications/supplements you mention are proven safe over decades of studies. This vaccine hasn’t been proven safe in 1 year of studies. It only has EUA for those over 12 years of age. You do realize that the EUA would be revoked if there is a proven therapy that works as well as, or better than the vaccine???? Censorship is a real thing going on in the MSM right now. Hydroxychloroquin and Ivermectin are super cheap. Vaccines will bring in BILLIONS. Just follow the money.
Attack the individuals? You mean determine their credibility. If I ask our vet to write a paper on the dangers of the vaccine and post it to a cat blog will you "attack the individual" or trust the information since it confirms your 'common sense'?
Old 07-30-2021 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by flightmedic01
Of course, you attack the individuals instead of the information. Have you read anything these people have published?? (Although Google/YouTube probably pulled it). I could have listed many more, but I figured you can type information into a search engine other than Google. And hell yeah I’d take that “cocktail”!! He’s shown that it works!! But you wont hear that in the MSM because that doesn’t fit the narrative of getting a shot in every arm. All three of those medications/supplements you mention are proven safe over decades of studies. This vaccine hasn’t been proven safe in 1 year of studies. It only has EUA for those over 12 years of age. You do realize that the EUA would be revoked if there is a proven therapy that works as well as, or better than the vaccine???? Censorship is a real thing going on in the MSM right now. Hydroxychloroquin and Ivermectin are super cheap. Vaccines will bring in BILLIONS. Just follow the money.
This you from 2 weeks ago, bro?

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I say we close this thread and be done with it. Let’s just agree to disagree.
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Old 07-30-2021 | 06:11 PM
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Are the variants more or less deadly? Mass media and government don't really say. I wonder why. A virus that mutates to be more deadly is not in the viruses best interest to spread and live.
Old 07-30-2021 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jersey
Are the variants more or less deadly? Mass media and government don't really say. I wonder why. A virus that mutates to be more deadly is not in the viruses best interest to spread and live.
The media reported extensively on the outbreaks in India (Delta) and Brazil (Gamma). Do you have access to news about countries outside of the US?
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