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Old 08-06-2021 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter
Did United justify this decision?

Vaccines don't seem to significantly reduce spread of the virus, they reduce the likelihood of severe illness among the most vulnerable. Most UAL employees are not the "most vulnerable", so from a medical standpoint I'm not sure I see the benefit. From a medical standpoint.

Also, this is only valid for US employees...? I don't think the company can mandate it overseas.

I'd be happy if United concentrated on improving their product and operational performance -- the woke nonsense is fairly destructive.
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Old 08-06-2021 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter
Did United justify this decision?

Vaccines don't seem to significantly reduce spread of the virus, they reduce the likelihood of severe illness among the most vulnerable. Most UAL employees are not the "most vulnerable", so from a medical standpoint I'm not sure I see the benefit. From a medical standpoint.

Also, this is only valid for US employees...? I don't think the company can mandate it overseas.

I'd be happy if United concentrated on improving their product and operational performance -- the woke nonsense is fairly destructive.
They explained the decision in detail in an internal message to employees. If you work for United you can see it on FT.
Old 08-06-2021 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter
Did United justify this decision?

Vaccines don't seem to significantly reduce spread of the virus, they reduce the likelihood of severe illness among the most vulnerable.
Significant error (or misdirection) in this statement...

True: If a vaccinated and an un-vaccinated person both actually got covid, then they both might be able to spread it.

But the vaccinated person is much less likely to actually get covid in then first place, so they are statistically less likely to bring it to work and spread it to others. 20 times less likely based on the known vaccine efficacy (which may be reduced a little bit for the delta variant).
Old 08-06-2021 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
JFC. That program got canned in 2004 and wasn't resurrected before I retired. Who revived that moronic program?
not sure about that. I was in the USMC 2004-2012 and got the Anthrax vaccine before deployment in 2007.
Old 08-06-2021 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
JFC. That program got canned in 2004 and wasn't resurrected before I retired. Who revived that moronic program?
It was voluntary for about a year in 2005. Aside from that it was mandatory for everyone deploying or in some cases at all times.
Old 08-06-2021 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AAL763
It’s amazing how quickly a lot of the covidiots on here and at HQ even managed to get out of bed for the last 1.5 years. It’s even more amazing how quickly they’ve all turned into fascistic morons with dictatorial aspirations. This ‘vaccine’, if you can even call it that, is quite literally still experimental. Hell, now we know it doesn’t even prevent one from getting COVID, and most importantly, it doesn’t even prevent spread of the virus. Hence why all the idiots that rushed to inject the experimental potion into their veins, in order to “gain their sense of normalcy back”, are now being told to mask up again everywhere they go. Most vaccines are tested for 5+ years before being given the green light by the FDA. But, by all means, you fearful fascistic dictatorial aspirants go inject yourselves with something with which we have NO idea of the long-term effects. Keep patting yourselves on the back, thinking you’re all heroes. We’ll see how you all feel 5 years from now. This country is done as we know it, and you sheep are the reason for it.
Definitely man! Hold strong don’t get the shot! Well as long as you are senior to me.
Old 08-06-2021 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
It was voluntary for about a year in 2005. Aside from that it was mandatory for everyone deploying or in some cases at all times.
Thanks for the information.
Old 08-06-2021 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Significant error (or misdirection) in this statement...

True: If a vaccinated and an un-vaccinated person both actually got covid, then they both might be able to spread it.

But the vaccinated person is much less likely to actually get covid in then first place, so they are statistically less likely to bring it to work and spread it to others. 20 times less likely based on the known vaccine efficacy (which may be reduced a little bit for the delta variant).
I thought the Provincetown data from the "Bear Party Weekend" the CDC published showed that the vaccinated can still spread COVID at much higher rates than previously thought?

Although PCRs are probably way too oversensitive and aren't measuring clinical infection, but that's another topic.

Vaccinations are extremely effective at reducing severe illness. But, so is not being obese.
Old 08-06-2021 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Broncofan
Definitely man! Hold strong don’t get the shot! Well as long as you are senior to me.
Erm, he flies for American. I fail to see how his decisions effect your seniority.
Old 08-06-2021 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Dude, wake up. 'My body my choice' in the current political environment only applies to abortion. In the current political environment, your body is required to get the jab.
It's a darned good thing we're moving unvaccinated (and in more than a few cases, infected) illegal aliens throughout the country. It's no longer catch and release; it's catch and bus nationwide. It makes 'superspreader events' look rather mundane.
That is not a superspreader event. Neither was Lalapalooza in Chicago last week. Or the Milwaukee Bucs NBA celebration. Now, I watched the CBS evening news last night and they informed me of the real superspreader threat facing us: Sturgis.
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