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Old 08-06-2021 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
No one will be forced to get the vaccine. They WILL have to make a choice now that's its a condition of employment.
Put out or get out. I don’t call that a choice. It’s an ultimatum.
Old 08-06-2021 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jtbost
Because it puts other folks at risk for no good reason. Their families and their livelihood. That’s why I’m vaccinated. I’m not scared of getting sick but I’d hate to see it happen to friends or family. I also want to see the poor countries get through this with our help. I want to see travel restrictions lifted and the airlines prosper. I want others to have the career I had. Getting this shot was easy. Politics and Pundits want to make it hard.
Then you have forfeited any right to complain about any future management decisions.
Welcome to the Orwellian future.

My body, my choice.
Old 08-06-2021 | 07:45 AM
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Lol on freedom and choice when all 50 states require specific vaccines for K-12. As in, this is not the world's first rodeo with respect to seriously dangerous infectious diseases and we do in fact at times mandate vaccines and we have in fact faced these sorts of things before.

Now we have a new pandemic, it's shut down borders around the world, crippled industries and killed millions over the last 1.5 years, and many of the biggest mouthpieces against the vaccine are literally the very people in one political party who themselves are quite fully vaccinated. So we get garbage takes, misinterpreted data, viral spread of information good or bad, abysmally bad risk analysis, and "muh freedoms" when in fact we're talking about vaccines that are about to get full approval and which are dramatically more effective than most historical vaccines and which are working at both slowing the spread and preventing death at least where they're prevalent.

But yeah it's all one big worldwide conspiracy theory.
Old 08-06-2021 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck D
Lol on freedom and choice when all 50 states require specific vaccines for K-12. As in, this is not the world's first rodeo with respect to seriously dangerous infectious diseases and we do in fact at times mandate vaccines and we have in fact faced these sorts of things before.

Now we have a new pandemic, it's shut down borders around the world, crippled industries and killed millions over the last 1.5 years, and many of the biggest mouthpieces against the vaccine are literally the very people in one political party who themselves are quite fully vaccinated. So we get garbage takes, misinterpreted data, viral spread of information good or bad, abysmally bad risk analysis, and "muh freedoms" when in fact we're talking about vaccines that are about to get full approval and which are dramatically more effective than most historical vaccines and which are working at both slowing the spread and preventing death at least where they're prevalent.

But yeah it's all one big worldwide conspiracy theory.
From a reality standpoint, the group with the fewest vaccinations are men of color. Blaming Sturgis or a political party doesn't seem rooted in reality, but then again, there hasn't been much reality or science with the response to COVID.

I'm vaccinated. It wasn't really my choice. Forcing vaccines on otherwise healthy and unaffected individuals is immoral and inhumane.

The short term effects from these vaccines can be significant. The long term effects, if any, are unknown.
Old 08-06-2021 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck D
Lol on freedom and choice when all 50 states require specific vaccines for K-12. As in, this is not the world's first rodeo with respect to seriously dangerous infectious diseases and we do in fact at times mandate vaccines and we have in fact faced these sorts of things before.

Now we have a new pandemic, it's shut down borders around the world, crippled industries and killed millions over the last 1.5 years, and many of the biggest mouthpieces against the vaccine are literally the very people in one political party who themselves are quite fully vaccinated. So we get garbage takes, misinterpreted data, viral spread of information good or bad, abysmally bad risk analysis, and "muh freedoms" when in fact we're talking about vaccines that are about to get full approval and which are dramatically more effective than most historical vaccines and which are working at both slowing the spread and preventing death at least where they're prevalent.

But yeah it's all one big worldwide conspiracy theory.
It's evident that you have bought into the political manipulation surrounding this virus. The issue is that this vaccine has not been adequately researched. The vaccinations you speak of, were developed over the course of years and some took upwards of 10 years to receive full FDA approval. This vaccine is not "dramatically" more effective and that is evidenced not only by the medical studies, but validated by the shifting message of the CDC. Until the implications of a medical procedure are fully understood, it should not be forced upon anyone. You have done a great job regurgitating headlines from Facebook and CNN but I encourage you to go dig into the data and this "history" you speak of.
Old 08-06-2021 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck D
Now we have a new pandemic, it's shut down borders around the world, crippled industries and killed millions over the last 1.5 years, and many of the biggest mouthpieces against the vaccine are literally the very people in one political party who themselves are quite fully vaccinated. So we get garbage takes, misinterpreted data, viral spread of information good or bad, abysmally bad risk analysis, and "muh freedoms" when in fact we're talking about vaccines that are about to get full approval and which are dramatically more effective than most historical vaccines and which are working at both slowing the spread and preventing death at least where they're prevalent.
It hasn't shut down our southern border. It's awesome that we're practicing catch and bus at the southern border with unvaccinated and infected illegal aliens. Are you going to ignore that megaspreader event since it doesn't fit your political narrative??.
Old 08-06-2021 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
It hasn't shut down our southern border. It's awesome that we're practicing catch and bus at the southern border with unvaccinated and infected illegal aliens. Are you going to ignore that megaspreader event since it doesn't fit your political narrative??.
glad to see whataboitism isn't dead.
Old 08-06-2021 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
But this sets a very bad precedent and those cheering this do not understand that they're forfeiting the right to complain in the future about any management decisions.
And the winner of the Hyperbole Award goes to Andy!
Old 08-06-2021 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
glad to see whataboitism isn't dead.
Glad to see one can ignore such reckless actions with respect to spreading Covid in the US.
Old 08-06-2021 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Glad to see one can ignore such reckless actions with respect to spreading Covid in the US.
One of the highest Covid hospitalization areas are in Missouri and Louisian. What countries do they border again?
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