Vacancy 22-04V
11-09-2021 | 09:13 AM
#41
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I agree. This fleet requires a LOT of pre study before heading to DEN. Cheers.
11-09-2021 | 10:43 AM
#42
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Yeah right!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 756 is still a nightmare for new hires and the 777/787 are not going to change a dang thing if it costs the company one extra penny. TK would rather give additional training than add a single day to their transition programs. It’s always been that way and it’ll always be that way.
The 756 is still a nightmare for new hires and the 777/787 are not going to change a dang thing if it costs the company one extra penny. TK would rather give additional training than add a single day to their transition programs. It’s always been that way and it’ll always be that way.
11-09-2021 | 01:12 PM
#46
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With all due respect. What is explicitly awful about the 756 training?
I agree the SIMs are wonky. Christine and the gang have seen their time. UPRT also doesn't help make them better either.
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11-09-2021 | 01:38 PM
#47
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From: A-320 CA
Because the fleet has so many differences and instructors from different legacies, I personally felt that the amount of “technique” being taught as procedure was significantly higher than my previous fleet training. Additionally, with FOX, it seems like you’re working with a different instructor every day, and that makes it even more difficult sometimes because todays “technique” isn’t the same as yesterdays.
I wouldn’t try to talk anyone out of bidding the fleet. I love the jet. I love the flying a whole heck of a lot more than the Airbus flying I was doing. I miss the Airbus cockpit but that’s about it.
11-09-2021 | 01:43 PM
#49
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From: 737 FO
The instructors are great. But the syllabus is too short in my opinion. There was a steep learning curve for Boeing techniques as a former French speaking Airbus pilot. The differences and the way the sims are set up don’t help.
Because the fleet has so many differences and instructors from different legacies, I personally felt that the amount of “technique” being taught as procedure was significantly higher than my previous fleet training. Additionally, with FOX, it seems like you’re working with a different instructor every day, and that makes it even more difficult sometimes because todays “technique” isn’t the same as yesterdays.
I wouldn’t try to talk anyone out of bidding the fleet. I love the jet. I love the flying a whole heck of a lot more than the Airbus flying I was doing. I miss the Airbus cockpit but that’s about it.
Because the fleet has so many differences and instructors from different legacies, I personally felt that the amount of “technique” being taught as procedure was significantly higher than my previous fleet training. Additionally, with FOX, it seems like you’re working with a different instructor every day, and that makes it even more difficult sometimes because todays “technique” isn’t the same as yesterdays.
I wouldn’t try to talk anyone out of bidding the fleet. I love the jet. I love the flying a whole heck of a lot more than the Airbus flying I was doing. I miss the Airbus cockpit but that’s about it.
I’d recommend taking the time to find the references for procedures vs techniques.
11-09-2021 | 01:48 PM
#50
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The instructors are great. But the syllabus is too short in my opinion. There was a steep learning curve for Boeing techniques as a former French speaking Airbus pilot. The differences and the way the sims are set up don’t help.
Because the fleet has so many differences and instructors from different legacies, I personally felt that the amount of “technique” being taught as procedure was significantly higher than my previous fleet training. Additionally, with FOX, it seems like you’re working with a different instructor every day, and that makes it even more difficult sometimes because todays “technique” isn’t the same as yesterdays.
I wouldn’t try to talk anyone out of bidding the fleet. I love the jet. I love the flying a whole heck of a lot more than the Airbus flying I was doing. I miss the Airbus cockpit but that’s about it.
Because the fleet has so many differences and instructors from different legacies, I personally felt that the amount of “technique” being taught as procedure was significantly higher than my previous fleet training. Additionally, with FOX, it seems like you’re working with a different instructor every day, and that makes it even more difficult sometimes because todays “technique” isn’t the same as yesterdays.
I wouldn’t try to talk anyone out of bidding the fleet. I love the jet. I love the flying a whole heck of a lot more than the Airbus flying I was doing. I miss the Airbus cockpit but that’s about it.
Thanks. I can see your point of view, understood. Coming from a previous Boeing type, I found the transition a little more manageable; I agree everyone may have a slightly different experience.
I found little teaching of technique vs. FM/standards. When technique was in play, we were advised as such, but there wasn't a lot of that from my experience.
The BUS guys all miss the flight deck but love the flying, as you stated.
Hopefully, we are all filling out the training critiques emailed after we complete a checking event. The fleet will be around a few more years, so there is an opportunity to make changes based on the feedback we provide.
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