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06-18-2022 | 06:51 PM
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I haven’t flown night hub turns in over 8 months, and even before then I only do it when necessary for days off and always get a comercial on both sides, so in a month end up doing only 8 nights, 4 each week (week on/week off). Yeah, I’m sure that’s gonna kill me 🙄. That statement is simply ignorant and clearly makes you look like you want to burn down your old house and chest pump your new one.
06-19-2022 | 09:47 AM
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Ive never calculated how much is daylight vs night. The 76 flying in Europe is at night, which translates to daylight hours for those who live on the East Coast. In other words, you never have to shift your schedule unless you are living in Europe.
06-20-2022 | 09:53 PM
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I would say around 40%. Living in domicile we have PM turns (out and backs). Depart SDF between 2-5 and return later that night between 11-2. Also some daytime flights to a hotel and back through the base in the morning and to another outstation in the afternoon.
06-21-2022 | 03:36 AM
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But going to Europe isn’t always so bad. Lots of flights takeoff around 2000 and land at 0230 (nyc time) out of Newark. Of course there is the 2300 London which puts you on the ground at 0530 nyc time.
06-21-2022 | 12:56 PM
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Hi. 25 year UA guy, preceded by 2 years at DHL. Either way, finish 20 in the mil. As I'm crunching the retirement numbers, healthcare costs are a significant hurdle, and I'm envious of the guys with the tricare deal. That said, I do maybe 3-4 redeyes a month. Night hub turns at a cargo carrier ain't that. Two years of the nightly freight thing made me at least 10 years older. Our big changeover at DHL was Monday night/Tuesday morning, and when you walked into the ready room you could tell by looking at them who was on day one and who was on day seven. If you're not at an airline now you probably can't jumpseat, but if you can I HIGHLY encourage you to jumpseat into SDF, sit through the sort, and jumpseat out. If you really want to taste the sweet nectar of night freight, do it for a week. Those guys aren't making bank because Mama Brown loves them (she doesn't, but that's beyond the scope here.)
For reference, I worked 127 days in 2021 (including the days of commuting in an evening early) and my W-2 was comparable to that of a Delta narrow body captain, I’m a 6-7 year FO. So we don’t REALLY have to be flying red-eyes all the time like the pax guys assume. Just wanted to post for a comparison.
06-21-2022 | 02:51 PM
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06-21-2022 | 03:42 PM
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