IRO Landing Currency - TA
06-26-2022 | 07:43 AM
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Apparently they want to touch a hot stove again.... I agree that it's a well established rest issue. FO landing currency requirements & costs are the cost of doing business at a global airline.
06-26-2022 | 07:46 AM
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Captains Authority will never override fatigue and the individual FFD determination. Seems the company might be willing to bet that the FOs just suck it up and make it work...
06-26-2022 | 07:46 AM
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I wish...but that's not me🙂.
Did you catch the Landing Currency video? Jeff Brown says that the company can lump all FOs together in one pairing with no delineation between bunkie and flying positions. He said that an IT limitation has prevented them from doing this, but its been solved. He insinuated (understatement) that they will do so without the TA. I dont know how that muddies the water?
Did you catch the Landing Currency video? Jeff Brown says that the company can lump all FOs together in one pairing with no delineation between bunkie and flying positions. He said that an IT limitation has prevented them from doing this, but its been solved. He insinuated (understatement) that they will do so without the TA. I dont know how that muddies the water?
06-26-2022 | 07:51 AM
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not directed at you axl but brown’s comment. I’m completely sick of “you have to see it from the company’s point of view” mentality and we’ll negotiate a little bit of coin to make the suffering easier. Enough of the company threats and what they can do to us. Negotiate a real contract or tell us the company doesn’t value our service. If you can’t do either, then for god’s sake resign.
06-26-2022 | 11:07 AM
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In one of the videos Jeff Brown said that the company has no obligation to build separate flying/bunkie pairings under the current contract. He further stated that an IT limitation is the only reason they haven't put all FOs nto a single pairing...and that IT limitation has been solved. It was pretty clear that you can expect separate flying and bunkie pairings to go away without this TA.
Just the messenger.....
Just the messenger.....
In other words the company is going to enact a massive change in status quo during negotiations, one which would make the TA less undesirable, and our union isn't going to do a damn thing about it. This almost seems like the same MEC that let management run over us with their purely PR stunt vax mandate while every other airline had a way out.
PS. How would they pick who to FBO without a flying FO?
06-28-2022 | 04:18 PM
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The bid IRO position is one of the best things about our global fleet. It forces the company to FBO the flying seat for training and allows people to have some idea of their rest before reporting for duty. This thing is a crack in the dam, especially if it's company preference.
06-28-2022 | 04:24 PM
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Can’t wait for one Capt to tell another Capt to suck it up and fly tired. That will be fun to watch.
06-28-2022 | 04:27 PM
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In one of the videos Jeff Brown said that the company has no obligation to build separate flying/bunkie pairings under the current contract. He further stated that an IT limitation is the only reason they haven't put all FOs nto a single pairing...and that IT limitation has been solved. It was pretty clear that you can expect separate flying and bunkie pairings to go away without this TA.
Just the messenger.....
Just the messenger.....
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