IRO Landing Currency - TA
06-25-2022 | 05:51 PM
#11
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I guarantee most flying pilots will be praying for an iro that needs a landing to grab the add pay. I personally have no problem going every 3 months as it’s a nice refresher and more beneficial then getting 3 landings in the real world. I most likely won’t want the landing and now I’m the bad guy before the trip even starts.
06-25-2022 | 06:03 PM
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It’s not about hating to fly, it’s about bidding the best trip in your seniority. I’d much rather bid IRO on a 25 hr double augmented NRT 3 day than a 19 hr flying seat to LHR. The super productive trips go senior and most can’t hold a flying seat on those routes. A 9 day IRO line beats the hell out of a 12 day flying seat line any day. Under the TA if you opt out of the landings swap and have to go to landings class, you don’t get paid. This thing is garbage on every fleet, yet it will probably pass.
06-25-2022 | 06:10 PM
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It’s not about hating to fly, it’s about bidding the best trip in your seniority. I’d much rather bid IRO on a 25 hr double augmented NRT 3 day than a 19 hr flying seat to LHR. The super productive trips go senior and most can’t hold a flying seat on those routes. A 9 day IRO line beats the hell out of a 12 day flying seat line any day. Under the TA if you opt out of the landings swap and have to go to landings class, you don’t get paid. This thing is garbage on every fleet, yet it will probably pass.
06-25-2022 | 06:29 PM
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If you had the seniority. I’d rather just do the 3 NRT’s. I don’t care about flying airplanes, I just care about getting paid. The IRO seat was actually easier on my body clock too. 4 pilots and a 6 hour paid nap was a pretty good gig.
06-25-2022 | 06:38 PM
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It’s not about hating to fly, it’s about bidding the best trip in your seniority. I’d much rather bid IRO on a 25 hr double augmented NRT 3 day than a 19 hr flying seat to LHR. The super productive trips go senior and most can’t hold a flying seat on those routes. A 9 day IRO line beats the hell out of a 12 day flying seat line any day. Under the TA if you opt out of the landings swap and have to go to landings class, you don’t get paid. This thing is garbage on every fleet, yet it will probably pass.
06-25-2022 | 07:58 PM
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6-7 years ago (DCA777FO), the IAD-NRT bunkie was the senior trip in the category. Many folks doing that had 777CA seniority easily. But the bunkie was a 3 day trip. They only had to do three a month and it was double augmented. The flying seat was a 7 day trip and the most junior trip on the fleet.
06-25-2022 | 08:16 PM
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This is really about freeing up sims. Sim time is so valuable now it's probably worth it for the company to FBO the flying FO and pay the IRO for a reassignment 3 times before taking down a sim for landings. This $500 deal is for kids. Also, an LHR landing is probably worth $500 to an EWR senior FO who lands 6 times per month. If you're getting 3 landings per month then it's worth $1000, no? But let's not forget this thing is worth several times that to the company to free up a sim+instructor slot.
06-25-2022 | 11:56 PM
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Is bidding for the flying seat a company preference or a pilot preference? That might be a nice change. When i show up the captain just asks who needs landings or who expires soonest. Being able to bid for or not bid for landings is nice.
06-26-2022 | 04:03 AM
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It’s not about hating to fly, it’s about bidding the best trip in your seniority. I’d much rather bid IRO on a 25 hr double augmented NRT 3 day than a 19 hr flying seat to LHR. The super productive trips go senior and most can’t hold a flying seat on those routes. A 9 day IRO line beats the hell out of a 12 day flying seat line any day. Under the TA if you opt out of the landings swap and have to go to landings class, you don’t get paid. This thing is garbage on every fleet, yet it will probably pass.
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