New Pilot Bases
10-12-2022 | 07:49 PM
#81
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So, say if MCO is the base to be announced. Can any of you United guys shed some light on how long it would take a new hire to even see that base in the future? Is it even a realistic consideration for someone to think they will be able to drive into work someday, or are these pipe dreams? I’m guessing this would be a very senior base?
Also why I’m seeing some people saying MCO/TPA? What is meant by shared base? Like a satellite base for starting out and finishing TPA?
Also why I’m seeing some people saying MCO/TPA? What is meant by shared base? Like a satellite base for starting out and finishing TPA?
Right now all I can say is it will be very senior on the senior side and very junior on the junior side. A co-domicile means you would have pairings that start at both bases. TPA trips will likely go senior and the MCO trips will probably do crappy turns to BQN in the middle of the night thus going junior...
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10-12-2022 | 08:08 PM
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Ny WAG is it will probably go very senior on the captain side and less so on the FO side. Look at some traditionally very senior bases- CLE, IAH, DEN- new hires are getting these in indoc or shortly after. Captains much less so.
There is some precedent with satellite/codomicile whatever you want to call it in NY and LA- ie you cover LGA/EWR/JFK depending on fleet, LA you cover a few in the area. I’m guessing it’ll be a codomicile simply because they’re close, and we have a medium sized presence in both, so why not cover them all? You’ll always end the trip in the same base you started from and you get “crosstown pay” for the satellite airport.
There is some precedent with satellite/codomicile whatever you want to call it in NY and LA- ie you cover LGA/EWR/JFK depending on fleet, LA you cover a few in the area. I’m guessing it’ll be a codomicile simply because they’re close, and we have a medium sized presence in both, so why not cover them all? You’ll always end the trip in the same base you started from and you get “crosstown pay” for the satellite airport.
Got it, so I see all this talk about senior time for wide body upgrades. How long would we be talking for upgrading on a wide body then? If you were to compare to say Denver? If it goes senior, what’s a worse case scenario time wise? Probably a dumb question, but I’m curious to see how long it would take to wait it out in the right seat.
So if it’s a wide body or a NB base though, from what I gather either way it’s likely you could snag a spot in MCO, driving in.
10-12-2022 | 08:19 PM
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Got it, thanks. So from what I gather either way if MCO became a wide body or a NB base a junior guy would likely be able to snag a position over there pretty quickly then eh?
Probably another dumb question, but all the talk about senior wide body upgrade times… what would be a pretty realistic timeframe comparing it to as you say another senior domicile such as Denver. How long would one have to wait it out in the right seat?
Probably another dumb question, but all the talk about senior wide body upgrade times… what would be a pretty realistic timeframe comparing it to as you say another senior domicile such as Denver. How long would one have to wait it out in the right seat?
10-13-2022 | 04:22 AM
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So, say if MCO is the base to be announced. Can any of you United guys shed some light on how long it would take a new hire to even see that base in the future? Is it even a realistic consideration for someone to think they will be able to drive into work someday, or are these pipe dreams? I’m guessing this would be a very senior base?
Also why I’m seeing some people saying MCO/TPA? What is meant by shared base? Like a satellite base for starting out and finishing TPA?
Also why I’m seeing some people saying MCO/TPA? What is meant by shared base? Like a satellite base for starting out and finishing TPA?
10-13-2022 | 05:54 AM
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I would rather continue the EWR commute and stay on B787 than be based in TPA or MCO as 737/320 CA.
Still think the quality of life would be better @40% EWR787FO than as junior line holder based in Florida. The pay difference would be minimal between the two and probably would lose an extra 2 to 3 days off a month on the narrowbody fleet.
Curious to see if I am just an outlier here or if there are others that would do the same.
Still think the quality of life would be better @40% EWR787FO than as junior line holder based in Florida. The pay difference would be minimal between the two and probably would lose an extra 2 to 3 days off a month on the narrowbody fleet.
Curious to see if I am just an outlier here or if there are others that would do the same.
10-13-2022 | 06:16 AM
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I would rather continue the EWR commute and stay on B787 than be based in TPA or MCO as 737/320 CA.
Still think the quality of life would be better @40% EWR787FO than as junior line holder based in Florida. The pay difference would be minimal between the two and probably would lose an extra 2 to 3 days off a month on the narrowbody fleet.
Curious to see if I am just an outlier here or if there are others that would do the same.
Still think the quality of life would be better @40% EWR787FO than as junior line holder based in Florida. The pay difference would be minimal between the two and probably would lose an extra 2 to 3 days off a month on the narrowbody fleet.
Curious to see if I am just an outlier here or if there are others that would do the same.
Personally, I would rather sit on reserve as a narrowbody CA for years if I only had to drive 15 minutes to get to work.
10-13-2022 | 06:33 AM
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10-13-2022 | 06:39 AM
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I would rather continue the EWR commute and stay on B787 than be based in TPA or MCO as 737/320 CA.
Still think the quality of life would be better @40% EWR787FO than as junior line holder based in Florida. The pay difference would be minimal between the two and probably would lose an extra 2 to 3 days off a month on the narrowbody fleet.
Curious to see if I am just an outlier here or if there are others that would do the same.
Still think the quality of life would be better @40% EWR787FO than as junior line holder based in Florida. The pay difference would be minimal between the two and probably would lose an extra 2 to 3 days off a month on the narrowbody fleet.
Curious to see if I am just an outlier here or if there are others that would do the same.
10-13-2022 | 06:48 AM
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Contractually not that I could find. It will bump up crosstown pay and make reserve callouts longer for whichever airport ends up as the non-primary. Up to the company whether that makes sense or not vs having two smaller bases.
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