Reserve vs other airlines
10-29-2022 | 03:52 PM
#21
Orbis Non Sufficit
Joined: Oct 2015
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Reserve here does suck IMHO.
We need to eliminate field standby as the only major who has it.
We should be able to pickup as reserves 72 hours out. (We can’t)
We should be able to move reserve days.
We should have at least 14 days off as Delta does, as stated above.
All aspects of the contract need to be definitive with absolutely no gray area for the company to interpret or we get hosed. And….be prepared to get hosed.
These things can and should all happen to benefit the United brand, reliability and the pilots but instead we have NTAC (no talent a$$ clowns) for our negotiators and union leads.
I hope this helps. I’ve been mostly on reserve and there is far too much gray area. Oh, and the guys around you on reserve, they will commit some serious shenanigans to maneuver themselves out of assignments at the last moments. Bank on it.
We need to eliminate field standby as the only major who has it.
We should be able to pickup as reserves 72 hours out. (We can’t)
We should be able to move reserve days.
We should have at least 14 days off as Delta does, as stated above.
All aspects of the contract need to be definitive with absolutely no gray area for the company to interpret or we get hosed. And….be prepared to get hosed.
These things can and should all happen to benefit the United brand, reliability and the pilots but instead we have NTAC (no talent a$$ clowns) for our negotiators and union leads.
I hope this helps. I’ve been mostly on reserve and there is far too much gray area. Oh, and the guys around you on reserve, they will commit some serious shenanigans to maneuver themselves out of assignments at the last moments. Bank on it.
10-29-2022 | 04:29 PM
#22
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 709
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From: 320 Captain
Reserve here does suck IMHO.
We need to eliminate field standby as the only major who has it.
We should be able to pickup as reserves 72 hours out. (We can’t)
We should be able to move reserve days.
We should have at least 14 days off as Delta does, as stated above.
All aspects of the contract need to be definitive with absolutely no gray area for the company to interpret or we get hosed. And….be prepared to get hosed.
These things can and should all happen to benefit the United brand, reliability and the pilots but instead we have NTAC (no talent a$$ clowns) for our negotiators and union leads.
I hope this helps. I’ve been mostly on reserve and there is far too much gray area. Oh, and the guys around you on reserve, they will commit some serious shenanigans to maneuver themselves out of assignments at the last moments. Bank on it.
We need to eliminate field standby as the only major who has it.
We should be able to pickup as reserves 72 hours out. (We can’t)
We should be able to move reserve days.
We should have at least 14 days off as Delta does, as stated above.
All aspects of the contract need to be definitive with absolutely no gray area for the company to interpret or we get hosed. And….be prepared to get hosed.
These things can and should all happen to benefit the United brand, reliability and the pilots but instead we have NTAC (no talent a$$ clowns) for our negotiators and union leads.
I hope this helps. I’ve been mostly on reserve and there is far too much gray area. Oh, and the guys around you on reserve, they will commit some serious shenanigans to maneuver themselves out of assignments at the last moments. Bank on it.
Reserve definitely could use some improvements. Make it a true long call (16+ hours), limit the number of SC conversions, or make it a separate PBS bid of LC vs SC or FSB lines (if FSB isnt eliminated- we used to have them and they were popular), more days off, etc…..
10-29-2022 | 05:18 PM
#23
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2018
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Reserve pick up 72 hours out? Good luck with that as you would get pushback from both your fellow pilots and the company. It would mess with lineholders trip trading/PPU. And why would the company agree to having unavailable reserves for an additional 48 hours. Or are you ok with getting rid of the current book of “once assigned a trip, then there is no longer any reserve obligation, ie don't have to answer your phone”. If not then beware the unintended consequences, such as an increased number of reserves.
Reserve definitely could use some improvements. Make it a true long call (16+ hours), limit the number of SC conversions, or make it a separate PBS bid of LC vs SC or FSB lines (if FSB isnt eliminated- we used to have them and they were popular), more days off, etc…..
Reserve definitely could use some improvements. Make it a true long call (16+ hours), limit the number of SC conversions, or make it a separate PBS bid of LC vs SC or FSB lines (if FSB isnt eliminated- we used to have them and they were popular), more days off, etc…..
- true long call line, cannot be converted to SC or FSB
- all short call line with more days off than today (maybe 2-3) but with same monthly pay. Option to convert to FSB at pilots discretion for some add pay
in addition, there should be computer trading of reserve days with some BDWD logic.
option to pick up on days off
10-29-2022 | 05:26 PM
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,512
Likes: 0
From: 787 Captain
Also, the add pay % only applies to the pairing hard time. It's NOT the same as a lineholder 50%PP.
10-30-2022 | 10:18 AM
#27
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 48
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From: Shaky.... at best
I’m aware. Because I’m not living in a bunk bed in base I’d try and VDO during short time off stretches. If I get called great, if not I spend more time with my parents. Either way it works out. Not like I’m sitting on my ass in a crash pad with nothing to do bored out of my mind
Now the chance of me getting used on my VDO days? I don’t know. Probably not a lot but because they’re surrounded by reserve days maybe I have a higher chance. Not sure the priority and order of assigning trips to reservists and people VDOing
Now the chance of me getting used on my VDO days? I don’t know. Probably not a lot but because they’re surrounded by reserve days maybe I have a higher chance. Not sure the priority and order of assigning trips to reservists and people VDOing
Reserve and the misery or enjoyment of it completely varies by BES. I’m WB and commute to reserve by choice. It’s a totally different experience than NB reserve and also depends on your commute and ability to stay somewhere. Again Reserve is so wildly different between BES that you can not make a generalization about it here as a whole. You have to know where it is and be able to speak to someone in that specific BES to understand how reserve is for that subset. It sounds nuts, but it really is that specific here as to how your experience will go.
PM me if you would like to know more specifically about it.
10-30-2022 | 07:04 PM
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2006
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WN is 15 days off. 2 hr callout. Guarantee of 6/day. If called out the trips lays what it’s worth or 6.5 per day. So if called out for a 2 day, you’d get paid 13 which is 1 more than the rsv guarantee of 12. So you’d be guaranteed 91 for the month ( you get paid more than guarantee when called out).
if not called you can pick up on days off and that also goes above guarantee.
There’s some caveats but if you get moved up the day after (given a 2 day and on day 2 they call with an earlier show) that whole day pays 1.5x. If they add flying to your day, anything past the original finish time pays 1.5x.
So there’s potential to make $ if you bid rsv….
if not called you can pick up on days off and that also goes above guarantee.
There’s some caveats but if you get moved up the day after (given a 2 day and on day 2 they call with an earlier show) that whole day pays 1.5x. If they add flying to your day, anything past the original finish time pays 1.5x.
So there’s potential to make $ if you bid rsv….
10-30-2022 | 10:33 PM
#29
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,150
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WN is 15 days off. 2 hr callout. Guarantee of 6/day. If called out the trips lays what it’s worth or 6.5 per day. So if called out for a 2 day, you’d get paid 13 which is 1 more than the rsv guarantee of 12. So you’d be guaranteed 91 for the month ( you get paid more than guarantee when called out).
if not called you can pick up on days off and that also goes above guarantee.
There’s some caveats but if you get moved up the day after (given a 2 day and on day 2 they call with an earlier show) that whole day pays 1.5x. If they add flying to your day, anything past the original finish time pays 1.5x.
So there’s potential to make $ if you bid rsv….
if not called you can pick up on days off and that also goes above guarantee.
There’s some caveats but if you get moved up the day after (given a 2 day and on day 2 they call with an earlier show) that whole day pays 1.5x. If they add flying to your day, anything past the original finish time pays 1.5x.
So there’s potential to make $ if you bid rsv….
10-31-2022 | 02:13 AM
#30
Line Holder
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 934
Likes: 22
WN is 15 days off. 2 hr callout. Guarantee of 6/day. If called out the trips lays what it’s worth or 6.5 per day. So if called out for a 2 day, you’d get paid 13 which is 1 more than the rsv guarantee of 12. So you’d be guaranteed 91 for the month ( you get paid more than guarantee when called out).
if not called you can pick up on days off and that also goes above guarantee.
There’s some caveats but if you get moved up the day after (given a 2 day and on day 2 they call with an earlier show) that whole day pays 1.5x. If they add flying to your day, anything past the original finish time pays 1.5x.
So there’s potential to make $ if you bid rsv….
if not called you can pick up on days off and that also goes above guarantee.
There’s some caveats but if you get moved up the day after (given a 2 day and on day 2 they call with an earlier show) that whole day pays 1.5x. If they add flying to your day, anything past the original finish time pays 1.5x.
So there’s potential to make $ if you bid rsv….
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