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JTwift 11-15-2022 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by 01110011 (Post 3532100)
I’d be willing to guess a lot of those PI’s and LCA’s are gambling on instructor provisions similar to TA1 in a timely TA2, and if this drags out indefinitely you’ll see the tide ebb back out of the building.

I have personally heard this exact thing from several LCAs and TK instructors. And I’m just one noob out on the line. I imagine there’s quite a few more with the same thoughts.

ThumbsUp 11-15-2022 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by 01110011 (Post 3532100)
I’d be willing to guess a lot of those PI’s and LCA’s are gambling on instructor provisions similar to TA1 in a timely TA2, and if this drags out indefinitely you’ll see the tide ebb back out of the building.


Maybe some of the more senior ones, yes, but those young folks taking these jobs don't seem to feel that way. They are just taking the opportunity to get what is perceived as a jump in QoL. As long as they can keep attracting people, the current book isn't a problem in that regard.

01110011 11-15-2022 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3532120)
Maybe some of the more senior ones, yes, but those young folks taking these jobs don't seem to feel that way. They are just taking the opportunity to get what is perceived as a jump in QoL. As long as they can keep attracting people, the current book isn't a problem in that regard.

“It’s the junior pilots that are ruining things!” :D

For what it’s worth anecdotally, I’ve heard the exact opposite sentiment.

ThumbsUp 11-15-2022 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by 01110011 (Post 3532132)
“It’s the junior pilots that are ruining things!” :D

For what it’s worth anecdotally, I’ve heard the exact opposite sentiment.


Me too… and some have already bailed. They’re just not junior.

Mitch Rapp 11-15-2022 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by 01110011 (Post 3532022)
Eh point 3 of the Quigley message about the early 5% LOA implementation points otherwise.

The company framing getting rid of onerous TA1 concessions and framing it as a win for pilots is disingenuous, but the rumor going around that “all we did was get back to square one” doesn’t seem to be true unless his third point is just a straight up lie.

Not directed at you, but does anyone know what these “improvements” are? More importantly, why is everything still being kept secret? We’ve seen how good that works with TUMI TA.

hockeypilot44 11-15-2022 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Barley (Post 3531491)
The road to TA2? It’ll be on the coattails of what Delta does. United made it clear we won’t lead anything useful for labor agreements. Sounds like Delta may be closing in on something though.

Maybe. Delta pilots are fighting hard. Hopefully United doesn’t put out another **** TA that undercuts the Delta union’s hard work. Voting down last one gave DALPA a boost but a new one could hurt them again.

Barley 11-15-2022 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3532180)
Maybe. Delta pilots are fighting hard. Hopefully United doesn’t put out another **** TA that undercuts the Delta union’s hard work. Voting down last one gave DALPA a boost but a new one could hurt them again.

They’re dropping the TUMI for TA2 and instead providing a free pair of plain white New Balance shoes, knee high socks, a commemorative plate from InfoWars, and a sticker book of “I did that” memes to place at gas pumps. God help us because it’ll pass.

JoePatroni 11-15-2022 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Barley (Post 3532242)
They’re dropping the TUMI for TA2 and instead providing a free pair of plain white New Balance shoes, knee high socks, a commemorative plate from InfoWars, and a sticker book of “I did that” memes to place at gas pumps. God help us because it’ll pass.

Internet winner of the day.

dmeg13021 11-15-2022 04:03 PM

Vote will be contested due to ALPAs use of Venezuelan voting machines

OneplusF 11-15-2022 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 3531994)
PRAP overages to the paycheck are a terrible idea unless you like paying a crap load more in taxes.

I’d rather pay taxes on money I can spend than go into an health retirement account that is very limited on how and when I can spend it. We are the only carrier that forces all overages into an HRA. 401(a)17 excess for every other major is in cash.


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