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Old 12-05-2022 | 12:56 AM
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Fellow union brothers and sisters.

Today starts a special MEC meeting for our representatives to give direction to the Negotiatimg Committee moving forward.

I know it will not surprise most of you that I’ve have communicated my thoughts on why we must have massive improvements to our sick leave & LTD to catch up to what DAL has had for over 6 years.

Please take some time as it’s not to late to communicate to your representatives that we must at the very minimum match the DAL AIP but hopefully exceed the DAL AIP to set the bar higher. This not only help the rest of the industry, but DAL too because of their Me Too clause.

It’s about time we the United Pilots do our part in the heavy lifting process to raise the bar and not rely on others (mostly DAL) to do so for us.
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Old 12-05-2022 | 06:31 AM
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UA pilots haven't done any heavy lifting since Dubinski was here. Don't hold your breath.
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Old 12-05-2022 | 06:52 AM
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UA pilots haven't done any heavy lifting since Dubinski was here. Don't hold your breath.
One can always hope!
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Old 12-05-2022 | 07:01 AM
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Yes!

1. Hamilton resign, it’s not personal. He failed. We are moving forward.
2. Push for enhancements above Deltas. They have certainly lead.
3. Open forum for review, like Delta, no sales pitch road show, just online Q&A and let’s get to a vote expeditiously!
4. Close the deal, crank customer service, promote our great route structure and superior wide body fleet, shooting to be no 1.

We live happily ever after. Let’s roll!
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Originally Posted by oldmako
UA pilots haven't done any heavy lifting since Dubinski was here. Don't hold your breath.

Ain't that the truth.
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Old 12-05-2022 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
I know it will not surprise most of you that I’ve have communicated my thoughts on why we must have massive improvements to our sick leave & LTD to catch up to what DAL has had for over 6 years.

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Think we need improvements to RESERVE before the other stuff. I assure you a lot of reserves call in sick because of the BS that is handed out on a regular basis. The 18 hour Long Call reserve is useless, if everyone is put on SC or FSB. We need massive reserve improvements which will help alleviate all the NB vacancies. This can has been kicked down the road for way too long. Must be fixed in the DAL +1 AIP, or I'm a fat NO.
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Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
Think we need improvements to RESERVE before the other stuff. I assure you a lot of reserves call in sick because of the BS that is handed out on a regular basis. The 18 hour Long Call reserve is useless, if everyone is put on SC or FSB. We need massive reserve improvements which will help alleviate all the NB vacancies. This can has been kicked down the road for way too long. Must be fixed in the DAL +1 AIP, or I'm a fat NO.
I agree completely. According to the company the number of reserves is going up. Over 20 percent of United pilots are going to be on reserve and few years down the line many of them will be on global reserve.
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Old 12-05-2022 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by serce
I agree completely. According to the company the number of reserves is going up. Over 20 percent of United pilots are going to be on reserve and few years down the line many of them will be on global reserve.

Not to mention that under Tumi lineholders were all basically reserves as well. We need the reassignment rules that Delta just got.
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Not to mention that under Tumi lineholders were all basically reserves as well. We need the reassignment rules that Delta just got.

You sure they’re better? Reassignments here are pretty rare, largely because the reserve rules are so bad AND our current book is pretty good. So while we need to improve reserve, it shouldn’t come at a cost to the stability of the line.
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You sure they’re better? Reassignments here are pretty rare, largely because the reserve rules are so bad AND our current book is pretty good. So while we need to improve reserve, it shouldn’t come at a cost to the stability of the line.
Tumi was going to move lineholders up to the same step as reserves. The delta rules will pay 150%, and force them to either put you back on your trip or release you with pay if they can’t. I can’t see how that could possibly be worse than our current reassignment rules, especially since the delta negotiators are claiming there are no concessions. Their reassignment rules were already better than ours, nothing into a day off unless it’s a mechanical out of base or something and it’s just not possible to get you home.

side note I got reassigned just about every bad weather day this spring and summer, multiple times into a day off. It’s basically RJ rules out there on the NB fleets.
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