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Old 02-22-2023 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AMC190
What a F…/ing stupid thread this ! Dealing with race and color issues in 2023? Ha! We all bleed red and poop brown and one day will die too!
Agreed!

With the exception being Riddle grads, F-15 pilots and Moderators.
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Old 02-22-2023 | 04:31 PM
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Can’t remember where I saw this but thought it was an excellent summation of DEI.

Diversity is no longer a term to describe the breadth of our differences but a demand to flatter and grant privileges to purportedly oppressed identity groups. Equity assigns desirable positions based on race, sex and sexual orientation rather than character, competence and merit.
Inclusion now means creating a social environment where identity groups are celebrated while those who disagree are maligned.
"Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion"-the compound form of these modern concepts-is especially toxic. It divides us by social identity groups, ranks those groups on privilege and power, and excludes those who fail to honor the new orthodoxy.

Anyway, I thought this discussion was great (and relevant to our airline).
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Old 02-22-2023 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
Heres the count:

✔️18 points/infractions handed out
✔️Two 3 day bans
✔7+ comments deleted
✔️6 political/unfair moderation complaints against me
✔️15 pages

Not bad 👏

Disclaimer: estimates only. I did not actually count anything. actual numbers may differ wildly either to the upside or downside. counts do not include PMs and inadequate moderation attempts on my part
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Old 02-22-2023 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AMC190
everyone poops brown
Highly debatable. Depends what you ate.
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Old 02-23-2023 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
Heres the count:

✔️18 points/infractions handed out
✔️Two 3 day bans
✔7+ comments deleted
✔️6 political/unfair moderation complaints against me
✔️15 pages

Not bad 👏

Disclaimer: estimates only. I did not actually count anything. actual numbers may differ wildly either to the upside or downside. counts do not include PMs and inadequate moderation attempts on my part
Id like to state for the record;

Those are rookie numbers you need to step it up!
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Old 02-23-2023 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
Id like to state for the record;

Those are rookie numbers you need to step it up!
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Old 02-23-2023 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JetDoc
I just spit coffee all over my keyboard.
Frank was right....
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Old 02-23-2023 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawk1G
Agree. In this hiring environment, DEI is not costing someone else an opportunity.
So it is ok now but when the market is tight it is bad??? Something seems wrong with that judgement.
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Old 02-23-2023 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
No idea why it caused you heart burn because NH classes before this hiring environment were still dominated by white male with minorities and women being the minority…..There were a lot of women and minorities in the same boat as you having difficulty getting interviews….
Originally Posted by velosnow
It's an easy target that's why. This profession is still around 90% male and white yet you'll always hear lame excuses like this.
Because I don’t GAF about statistics and demographics of NH classes. I GAF about ME. When I wasn’t getting a nibble and I had fulfilled all the “required” qualifications…while SPECIFIC individuals who did not, were hired….that will cause heartburn. I’m not speaking in generalizations….I can name at least 5 specific people I worked with who were hired a couple years before I was able to. The hiring environment USED to be brutal. Every interview was worth $1 million. When there are limited spots on the lifeboat…and you aren’t getting on….it’s not as easy to just “wish people well” and peacefully accept your career isn’t advancing because you happen to be born into a group that’s strongly represented already. This all changes when you are finally on the better side of the fence. I begrudge NOBODY their opportunity. I don’t GAF about who we hire as long as they are safe and I can stand them for 4 days.
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Old 02-23-2023 | 08:37 AM
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People need to stop being an embarrassment to the profession. There’s almost not a single person here who wasn’t hired AFTER someone else, often but not always white and male, who was younger, with fewer hours and less or even zero turbine PIC. Even back in the just post-merger hiring we hired 24 and I think 23 YO’s with little to no PIC. It happens. They were usually well connected to my knowledge and the few I know have been solid. Get over it and recognize that if we put pilots exclusively in charge of hiring we would probably start with squadron buds and regional pilots we knew personally.

At the end of the day we now need to hire a whole lot of pilots (in a smaller pool than in the past) and they can’t all come from the same demographic. This is fine. It’s awesome even. But we do all have to meet the same standard and that standard hasn’t gotten weaker and shouldn’t. That’s our most important goal at the end of the day. The rest is just BS political posturing.
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