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#151
#152
On Reserve
Joined: Jan 2023
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From: Upside Down
Can’t remember where I saw this but thought it was an excellent summation of DEI.
Diversity is no longer a term to describe the breadth of our differences but a demand to flatter and grant privileges to purportedly oppressed identity groups. Equity assigns desirable positions based on race, sex and sexual orientation rather than character, competence and merit.
Inclusion now means creating a social environment where identity groups are celebrated while those who disagree are maligned.
"Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion"-the compound form of these modern concepts-is especially toxic. It divides us by social identity groups, ranks those groups on privilege and power, and excludes those who fail to honor the new orthodoxy.
Anyway, I thought this discussion was great (and relevant to our airline).
Diversity is no longer a term to describe the breadth of our differences but a demand to flatter and grant privileges to purportedly oppressed identity groups. Equity assigns desirable positions based on race, sex and sexual orientation rather than character, competence and merit.
Inclusion now means creating a social environment where identity groups are celebrated while those who disagree are maligned.
"Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion"-the compound form of these modern concepts-is especially toxic. It divides us by social identity groups, ranks those groups on privilege and power, and excludes those who fail to honor the new orthodoxy.
Anyway, I thought this discussion was great (and relevant to our airline).
#153
Heres the count:
✔️18 points/infractions handed out
✔️Two 3 day bans
✔7+ comments deleted
✔️6 political/unfair moderation complaints against me
✔️15 pages
Not bad 👏
Disclaimer: estimates only. I did not actually count anything. actual numbers may differ wildly either to the upside or downside. counts do not include PMs and inadequate moderation attempts on my part
✔️18 points/infractions handed out
✔️Two 3 day bans
✔7+ comments deleted
✔️6 political/unfair moderation complaints against me
✔️15 pages
Not bad 👏
Disclaimer: estimates only. I did not actually count anything. actual numbers may differ wildly either to the upside or downside. counts do not include PMs and inadequate moderation attempts on my part
#155
Heres the count:
✔️18 points/infractions handed out
✔️Two 3 day bans
✔7+ comments deleted
✔️6 political/unfair moderation complaints against me
✔️15 pages
Not bad 👏
Disclaimer: estimates only. I did not actually count anything. actual numbers may differ wildly either to the upside or downside. counts do not include PMs and inadequate moderation attempts on my part
✔️18 points/infractions handed out
✔️Two 3 day bans
✔7+ comments deleted
✔️6 political/unfair moderation complaints against me
✔️15 pages
Not bad 👏
Disclaimer: estimates only. I did not actually count anything. actual numbers may differ wildly either to the upside or downside. counts do not include PMs and inadequate moderation attempts on my part
Those are rookie numbers you need to step it up!
#159
No idea why it caused you heart burn because NH classes before this hiring environment were still dominated by white male with minorities and women being the minority…..There were a lot of women and minorities in the same boat as you having difficulty getting interviews….
#160
Line Holder
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 740
Likes: 19
People need to stop being an embarrassment to the profession. There’s almost not a single person here who wasn’t hired AFTER someone else, often but not always white and male, who was younger, with fewer hours and less or even zero turbine PIC. Even back in the just post-merger hiring we hired 24 and I think 23 YO’s with little to no PIC. It happens. They were usually well connected to my knowledge and the few I know have been solid. Get over it and recognize that if we put pilots exclusively in charge of hiring we would probably start with squadron buds and regional pilots we knew personally.
At the end of the day we now need to hire a whole lot of pilots (in a smaller pool than in the past) and they can’t all come from the same demographic. This is fine. It’s awesome even. But we do all have to meet the same standard and that standard hasn’t gotten weaker and shouldn’t. That’s our most important goal at the end of the day. The rest is just BS political posturing.
At the end of the day we now need to hire a whole lot of pilots (in a smaller pool than in the past) and they can’t all come from the same demographic. This is fine. It’s awesome even. But we do all have to meet the same standard and that standard hasn’t gotten weaker and shouldn’t. That’s our most important goal at the end of the day. The rest is just BS political posturing.
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