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Old 03-20-2023, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal View Post
They got 14% retro for ALL of 2022 FYI. and 18% for all of 2023. (and 4% for 2020 and 4% for 2021 but who's counting) All in all they got from Jan 2020 to Dec 31 2022 a combine retro rate of 7.3% per year (if you wanna look at it that way)
That’s not full retro, which is why it’s cheaper for them to delay, delay, delay.
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Old 03-20-2023, 05:16 PM
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You don't get retro for being rolled into days off, unlimited short calls/FSB, per diem, sick time accrual, LTD benefits, 401k contribution, vacation credit, minimum days off, etc etc.
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Old 03-20-2023, 06:36 PM
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I disagree, retro is industry standard now. They’re essentially already paying, they should probably get some operational reliability for the money.
I don't know what operation reliability problems you are seeing, but all I see is 100% PP trips getting gobbled up as soon as they are open and not even needing to use SRM. So, I don't think they are seeing operation issues that would cause them any concern.
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Old 03-20-2023, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GoCats67 View Post
I don't know what operation reliability problems you are seeing, but all I see is 100% PP trips getting gobbled up as soon as they are open and not even needing to use SRM. So, I don't think they are seeing operation issues that would cause them any concern.
Haha, not even 100%, usually 50…
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Old 03-21-2023, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by LJ Driver View Post
Haha, not even 100%, usually 50…
you all are seeing premium trips? Where?
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Old 03-21-2023, 03:51 AM
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you all are seeing premium trips? Where?
EWR 73 has some come up, usually gone in seconds though.
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Old 03-21-2023, 04:27 AM
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I could be wrong, but if the company wants to see the sub-60% NB CA categories go even more junior as compared to a (decent) line-holding WB FO, then keep utilization and reassignment trending up :-/ (I’ve been reassigned more times in the last year than every year since the merger combined)

The current model is not sustainable, certainly not with more A/C and the same bidding/manpower trends.
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Originally Posted by Chowdah View Post
I could be wrong, but if the company wants to see the sub-60% NB CA categories go even more junior as compared to a (decent) line-holding WB FO, then keep utilization and reassignment trending up :-/ (I’ve been reassigned more times in the last year than every year since the merger combined)

The current model is not sustainable, certainly not with more A/C and the same bidding/manpower trends.
What are the chances of street captains?
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Originally Posted by gripngrab;[url=tel:3610794
3610794[/url]]What are the chances of street captains?
Zero contract won’t allow it.

must be off probation
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Old 03-21-2023, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets View Post
Zero contract won’t allow it.

must be off probation
I've been wondering that too...
But after seeing what our company is doing, I won't be surprised if they don't have some of the newhires sign agreements stating that they are hired as FO's for the first 13 months, at which time they will be transitioned into the Left seat of a narrow body.
Does it cause a wrinkle with regards to bidding an aircraft? Yupe.
Would the union have a valid argument against the violation of Status Quo? Yupe.
Does that mean the company isn't already thinking of (any) ways to get around our UPA and get the Left Seats filled on the NB's? Yupe!

The EASIEST way to solve the Left Seat Vacancy problem (that the company created!) is an ILC23... before the summer of 2023.

They have less than 30 days to get that done. After Mid April and every airline reports their 1st quarter results, the chickens will definitely come home to roost.
Will be interesting to see what our Direct competitor (Delta) reports.. along with the other carriers who have gotten new Pilot Agreements/Extensions. Oh, and what American reports.
Ours is slated to be on Apr 19th, 2023.
Hence-
IF we had an AIP by that week... we
COULD have a TA by 1st week of May and then we
COULD have Road Shows and votes starting by 12 May which would mean we
COULD have a new UPA 1 July 2023.

But~

Friday, May 12th- No TA = No United Next.. but Picketing NOW.
(Expect we will be in Mediation at that point too)

Motch

PS) Wonder if the company could have potential new hires sign an agreement that they bid Capt Narrowbody after their first MV/LOE. If not, they are terminated. Keep in mind (as we have just seen) that they can terminate anyone during the first year for "cause". Wouldn't THAT be something!
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