Age 67
#371
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yea because no one here ever “shops” for an AME or says “keep your medical doctor separate from your AME” Does this mean they are unsafe, maybe.. maybe not. I am willing to bet there are many pilots with some underlying condition they do not disclose. For the most part these are probably benign things but that should it worsen could be catastrophic.
More rigid medical test would keep pilots from hiding these conditions. Do I necessarily want this, no.. but at the same time there comes a point where they are necessary to keep pilots from putting the public in danger.
More rigid medical test would keep pilots from hiding these conditions. Do I necessarily want this, no.. but at the same time there comes a point where they are necessary to keep pilots from putting the public in danger.
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Anyone flying with a permanently disqualifying medical condition is truly foolish. There just aren't that many things that can permanently ground you....and I'd bet you couldn't hide most of them. The real issue with stricter medicals would be the catastrophic failure of the Special Issuance process. It's already bad enough.
#374
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From: Twin jet, left
Anyone flying with a permanently disqualifying medical condition is truly foolish. There just aren't that many things that can permanently ground you....and I'd bet you couldn't hide most of them. The real issue with stricter medicals would be the catastrophic failure of the Special Issuance process. It's already bad enough.
[laughs in the over diagnosis ADHD crazy of the past few decades]
You know how doctors get paid by insurance or the gov? By diagnostic codes, combine that with the FAA thinking leaches are still cutting age medicine, yeah
Plus let’s add on the weaponization of the medical system
Hoover
https://www.leftseat.com/bob-hoover/
Petitt
https://christinenegroni.com/doc-who...dical-license/
I could go on
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[laughs in the over diagnosis ADHD crazy of the past few decades]
You know how doctors get paid by insurance or the gov? By diagnostic codes, combine that with the FAA thinking leaches are still cutting age medicine, yeah
Plus let’s add on the weaponization of the medical system
Hoover
https://www.leftseat.com/bob-hoover/
Petitt
https://christinenegroni.com/doc-who...dical-license/
I could go on
You know how doctors get paid by insurance or the gov? By diagnostic codes, combine that with the FAA thinking leaches are still cutting age medicine, yeah
Plus let’s add on the weaponization of the medical system
Hoover
https://www.leftseat.com/bob-hoover/
Petitt
https://christinenegroni.com/doc-who...dical-license/
I could go on
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WTF does this have to do with increasing the retirement age anyway?? Are you guys even paying attention? I'll give you a clue 》》》 NOBODY IN CONGRESS GIVES A KCUF WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT AGE 67, MEDICAL REQUIREMENTS, MEDICAL CERTIFICATION ABUSE, ETC.... Hell, I don't even care what you think. This will be decided for reasons having nothing to do with your concerns.
#378
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From: B-737 Captain
Ok there Bob Hoover 🙄🙄.
WTF does this have to do with increasing the retirement age anyway?? Are you guys even paying attention? I'll give you a clue 》》》 NOBODY IN CONGRESS GIVES A KCUF WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT AGE 67, MEDICAL REQUIREMENTS, MEDICAL CERTIFICATION ABUSE, ETC.... Hell, I don't even care what you think. This will be decided for reasons having nothing to do with your concerns.
WTF does this have to do with increasing the retirement age anyway?? Are you guys even paying attention? I'll give you a clue 》》》 NOBODY IN CONGRESS GIVES A KCUF WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT AGE 67, MEDICAL REQUIREMENTS, MEDICAL CERTIFICATION ABUSE, ETC.... Hell, I don't even care what you think. This will be decided for reasons having nothing to do with your concerns.
31 Democrats in the House A&I Commitee voted against age 67. They are friends of ALPA. Too bad 32 Republicans voted for it. Friends of RAA. Any questions?
#379
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From: guppy CA
It is very unlikely to improve safety. Please name a commercial flight in the last decade that has had a mishap due to a pilot's medical condition. Let's examine any data before jumping to conclusions.
In addition, this will reduce the total number of pilots - which is the goal of those pushing for stricter medical standards. This (stage 3 bargaining) is all about exacerbating a pilot shortage.
Now, here's where this half baked idea hurts those that can pass their physicals ... all of a sudden their LTD rates spike because a ton of pilots are out on LTD due to losing their medical.
Bottom line; If I lose my medical, I'll be happy to collect LTD until mandatory retirement.
And frankly, all this talk about stricter medicals is just stage 3, bargaining. It's not going to happen even if the age changes.
Oh my. You should get schooled on how things work in the beltway sausage factory. Those Ds are NOT your friend. The outcome of the vote was already known, but they voted against in order to appear opposed to 67 - to keep those ALPA PAC contributions flowing into their coffers and securing loyal voters. Mission accomplished and those contributors/voters are none the wiser.
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From: B-737 Captain
Oh my. You should get schooled on how things work in the beltway sausage factory. Those Ds are NOT your friend. The outcome of the vote was already known, but they voted against in order to appear opposed to 67 - to keep those ALPA PAC contributions flowing into their coffers and securing loyal voters. Mission accomplished and those contributors/voters are none the wiser.
I take it that means you don't contribute to the PAC? I figured as much. You'd probably forgo the the membership dues as well, if you could do it without getting fired. I do love a good union agency shop.
Last edited by guppie; 06-26-2023 at 03:48 AM.
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