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Old 06-24-2023 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by hopp
Ooh, feeling ignored? Yeah, don’t ask embarrassing questions that counter the prevailing narrative , like age 68 in Japan , or the other 13 countries who have higher than 65 to no age limits for pilots; like Canada, Costa Rica, etc.

What kind of group think lemming are you?
How much are those pilots getting paid these days?
Old 06-24-2023 | 02:36 PM
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Love seeing GK and his fellow self-serving boomers trying to rally the troops and his cause to make him another million dollars.
Yep, pathetic. There is a reason he is not the MEC chair.

67 is intended to open the door to age 70.
Old 06-24-2023 | 08:39 PM
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Love seeing GK and his fellow self-serving boomers trying to rally the troops and his cause to make him another million dollars.
Yep, my thoughts exactly. Their plan is for age 67 to pave the way for age 70.
Old 06-24-2023 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne
How much are those pilots getting paid these days?
yea I am willing to bet that a good number of US pilots couldn’t pass the medical that Japan uses for their pilots either.
Old 06-25-2023 | 04:36 AM
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yea I am willing to bet that a good number of US pilots couldn’t pass the medical that Japan uses for their pilots either.
So many US pilots are unsafe due to medical issues? What's your proposed solution? And what you base them being unsafe? Not by hull loss per hours flown; that's declined markedly.
Old 06-25-2023 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
So many US pilots are unsafe due to medical issues? What's your proposed solution? And what you base them being unsafe? Not by hull loss per hours flown; that's declined markedly.
You can’t point to these other countries with higher retirement age limits and simultaneously ignore their far more rigid medical process. Are we going to pretend like nearly everyone doesn’t go to the easiest AME they can find? Think that’s a thing outside the US? That’s the point he was making.
Old 06-25-2023 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Barley
You can’t point to these other countries with higher retirement age limits and simultaneously ignore their far more rigid medical process. Are we going to pretend like nearly everyone doesn’t go to the easiest AME they can find? Think that’s a thing outside the US? That’s the point he was making.
We definitely shop for the “easy AME” and actually increasing the medical standards to pass a class one medical would pour gasoline on the shortage since a large part of US airline pilots would fail if we were held to foreign standards. Other than checking blood pressure, vision, and a test strip in a urine sample for glucose levels, our physical exams are extremely lenient.
Old 06-25-2023 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Barley
You can’t point to these other countries with higher retirement age limits and simultaneously ignore their far more rigid medical process. Are we going to pretend like nearly everyone doesn’t go to the easiest AME they can find? Think that’s a thing outside the US? That’s the point he was making.
Yeah, those Costs Ricans and Russians are a paragon of good health, in between cigarette puffs.
Old 06-25-2023 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Barley
You can’t point to these other countries with higher retirement age limits and simultaneously ignore their far more rigid medical process. Are we going to pretend like nearly everyone doesn’t go to the easiest AME they can find? Think that’s a thing outside the US? That’s the point he was making.
Age 65 was the camel's nose in the tent. The day that happened, everyone should have known the age was eventually going higher. And after 67 passes, you should be expecting 70 as the next stop

I had a conversation with a pilot in his late 40s recently. He said he knew the age would eventually increase. He just wishes that it doesn’t happen for a few more years.
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Originally Posted by Andy
So many US pilots are unsafe due to medical issues? What's your proposed solution? And what you base them being unsafe? Not by hull loss per hours flown; that's declined markedly.
yea because no one here ever “shops” for an AME or says “keep your medical doctor separate from your AME” Does this mean they are unsafe, maybe.. maybe not. I am willing to bet there are many pilots with some underlying condition they do not disclose. For the most part these are probably benign things, but that should they worsen could be catastrophic and they do not disclose out of fear of losing their medical

More rigid medical test would keep pilots from hiding these conditions. Do I necessarily want this, no.. but at the same time there comes a point where they are necessary to keep pilots from putting the public in danger.

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