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Old 07-23-2023 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
Slot them in at the bottom. I will buy a half winger a beer. 😂😂
Be sure to explain to them how commuting to SFO is a choice. 😜
Old 07-23-2023 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
The current HR language specifies that you CAN return to 121 flying, if you're under 67. But it in no way states that airlines have to restore seniority, longevity, position so airlines will not take them back if for no other reason than the union would unload both barrels on the company. I'm 90% sure the union does not have a DFR to retirees, unless it has to do with retirement benefits.
It’s a good time to be involved in local union matters. Watch for “generationally friendly” resolutions being presented at your council level regarding this.
Old 07-23-2023 | 01:02 PM
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Default ALPA needs to be sued!!!

Why is our union harming dues paying members by the opposition to age 67?
We need as many pilots on the property to have a class action lawsuit against ALPA. Let's start at 1 Billion dollars and bankrupt this union for the harm it is doing to older pilots. Act now!!
Old 07-23-2023 | 09:14 PM
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You’re doing plenty of harm all by yourself
Old 07-23-2023 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
Slot them in at the bottom. I will buy a half winger a beer. 😂😂
And I'd be happy to write an eval for some of the outrageously racist and homophobic guys who have come back.
Old 07-24-2023 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JayAitch
And I'd be happy to write an eval for some of the outrageously racist and homophobic guys who have come back.
Half of them wouldn’t make it through probation.
Old 07-24-2023 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 336ars
Why is our union harming dues paying members by the opposition to age 67?
Because most dues paying members oppose it. Welcome to a representative system.
Old 07-24-2023 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
Because most dues paying members oppose it. Welcome to a representative system.

If you think that generation understands the founding principle of any democratic system is willingness to take a L in the minority, then you haven’t been paying attention.
Old 07-24-2023 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
Because most dues paying members oppose it. Welcome to a representative system.
My problem with this is YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS! I'm not taking a stand one way or the other but I will tell you that those that feel that they are not being represented by this stance at ALPA feel that way because they were NEVER ASKED their opinion on this. It could be that you are right that the majority do not support an age increase. But it could just as likely be the other way.
Old 07-24-2023 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
My problem with this is YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS! I'm not taking a stand one way or the other but I will tell you that those that feel that they are not being represented by this stance at ALPA feel that way because they were NEVER ASKED their opinion on this. It could be that you are right that the majority do not support an age increase. But it could just as likely be the other way.
Pretty sure the majority opposite 67.
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