I second this statement. What’s funny is that those normally selfish people will read this and just dismiss it.

 

This is an apt criticism but a weak political argument, as there hasn’t been a notable difference in the spending attitudes of either party for many years. If you are a fiscal conservative, you don’t have representation on either side of the aisle.

 

You can tell yourself, but it won't make it true. There's only one group on this issue trying to change the rules they benefitted from for their own selfish interest to the detriment of the VAST majority. That's selfishness defined. But I would still say fine to changing the age if we had a mechanism in place to deal with the safety risks it introduces, that the selfish pricks insist isn't even real, because they live in a land of self-delusion.

I never vote on self interest, only total group interest. Otherwise a union can't function.

 

If this is the slide deck you’re referring to:

https://www.icao.int/safety/aviation...%20Study_c.pdf

In my opinion, as you state, these slides do indicate ICAO is looking at ways to mitigate threats due to expected age increases in the pilot age limitation. ICAO does predict the retirement age will increase to 68 by 2030. (Slide 8) This is the result of increasing life expectancy in member states.

 

Louder...for those in the back that probably need to turn up their hearing aids (and retire at a reasonable age instead of dying in the seat).

 

**Sacasm Alert**

I would definitely support raising the age in 2030 -- when I'm 63 and #500 on the seniority list. Until then I'm vigorously opposed!!!!

#TOTALSARCASM #TIC
#IDONTREALLY THINKLIKETHIS

FWIW I'll vote against an age limit increase in the upcoming survey. I'll vote against any increase in the future as well.

 

This survey won’t matter.
Your vote won’t matter.

Congress has already decided on raising the age to 67/68. Our elected officials don’t give a schitt about you or the soon to be 65ers making 400k. The care about their local contributors who have made this an issue that needs to be addressed. The only question is the implementation schedule.

 

Correct.
Joe and Jane Sixpack don't like when their flights are delayed or cancelled. They see plenty of news articles stating that there's a pilot shortage and that commercial pilots can't fly past 65. A quick solution? Raise retirement age.

Oh wait, that's not safe! But 65 is safe? If we were really that serious about being safe, we'd lower pilot retirement age to 50 because there's a huge spike in pilot cardiovascular events between 50 and 60. Ironically, those events decline in the 60-65 population of pilots. Maybe ground all pilots between 50 and 60? (since we're going down a silly safety rebbit hole).

 

Not it, but the ICAO one is similar in content.

Of course none of this really matters; as long as the pilot shortage becomes more acute, the powers that be will pull on the easiest quickest solution. No opinions expressed on these boards matter.

 

You are acting completely in your own self interest in that you want to keep your rapid rise up the seniority to keep going at that unprecedented speed.
You don't give a crap about your customers who have had flights delayed and cancelled due to pilot shortages. No, it's all about you and getting to be a lineholding WB ca before you're 50.
You're a completely selfish prick trying to hide your selfishness under the guise of safety, in spite of the safest time in aviation history occurring after the retirement age was changed to 65.
You're making the exact same argument that was made against 65. However, once the age changed to 65, it opened the door to further age increases. Well, the next (but not last) age increase to 67 is now upon us. Next stop 70.
And we can each bloviate to no end on this subject but none of this matters because the decision's already been made within the halls of Congress to increase retirement age. All that's left is a bit of turd polishing by those politicians who claim to oppose an age change. They're busy fixing punctuation and pointing blame at others for sneaking the age change into the Reauthorization Act.