Sudden death is only a threat when in the air. It's an acute risk. Cognitive decline is a chronic risk, and affects every hour on the job.

 

Also much harder to identify. Especially when recurrent events are shared with the whole group hours or days after they go live. Hardly a rigorous test of one’s mental faculties when you can memorize the whole thing ahead of time.

 

Believe me I remember it, with a stroke of a pen 300 over age sixty engineers moved back to the left seat. Then add on no retirements for five years and a totally crap economy thrown in the mix.

Lost my WB captain bid and got an extra five years as an FO.

So yes I remember.

So a two year extension in the largest hiring boom ever in airline history is going to make this practically a non event.

I know you are going to say you got stuck at a regional longer. Probably a better deal than in 1993 when I got out of the military and me and most of my friends were either unemployed or working some crap job. So yes everybody has it tough every once and a while.

You want me to cry for you go live in the slums of Mumbai, you got nothing to cry about.

 

That's fine. It's your turn to sh*t on the pilots under you. I get it. But don't try to spin it than anything other than that. And I'll be sure to do what's in my limited power to stop 67 from happening.

And I promise I won't use my bad times as an excuse to treat the next generation poorly when it's my turn.

 

Your anger is misdirected. The ones that are pushing this are the politicians and a few pilots. The few pilots are not influencing age 67 change. It is the public crying about lost or poor service which the airline management blames on a lack of pilots.

So the politicians can look like they are actually helping out the public and keeping some pilits off SS a few more years.

Calling senior pilots gramps or saying they need to work more because of ex wives, boats or planes or poor planning is not going to get you anywhere.

 

You're correct. And you are not following the groupthink in this echo chamber.
I have made no effort to contact my representatives either in favor or against age 67. I have done nothing to support or oppose an age change. That doesn't matter; my problem is that like you, I'm just telling everyone the extremely likely outcome which is that the retirement age will change to 67.

They'll use the safety/science argument, but now that I've pointed out the elevated coronary risk of 50-60 year olds - you know, science - they focus on cognitive decline. Never mind that anyone who's studied cognitive decline would know that there's no inexpensive or reliable way to determine cognitive decline. No science, but that doesn't matter to them. Because we're all selfish pricks arguing for what will benefit us.

To be clear for everyone, I'm not arguing for or against an age change; I'm agnostic on hte subject. I am simply stating the obvious on the sugject.

 

I am following the group think, problem is the group is yelling at the clouds. Just because the name of the amendment is called the experienced pilots act doesn’t mean it has anything to do with the name. It should really be called the politicians trying to fix something that they don’t have a clue about but we are going to do something so we can say we are looking out for our constituents so we can get re elected against bill!

 

Politicians don’t fix things, nor is that their primary concern. They simply give the illusion of solving problems until the vote is cast or the constituents forget. This is an easy vote for them (especially since it’s just a minor political issue in a much larger bill). They can be seen as taking steps to reduce flight cancellations and the dropping of service due to a lack of pilots. It doesn’t matter that it just kicks the can down the road for another 2 years since they can just “solve the problem” again.

 

I flew with several of his flavor of lying prick before I got chopped in ‘09. They knew my status, so of course they all said they were going out at 60 regardless….and were going to travel around the country in an RV….yada, yada……..

 

Naw, actually he was booted out the door for several years….for the second time. More or less the same thing, though…..🤣

Do you have any concept whatsoever what the sequence of events was?