Age 67
08-02-2023 | 07:38 AM
#491
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These threads are always funny with their intellectual dishonesty. It’s always “safety” and “financial irresponsibility within the older generation”…….let’s just be honest…..it’s 100% “get out of my seat/line/vacation slot”. Period. That’s IT
* no…I’m nowhere near 65….in case you think that
* no…I’m nowhere near 65….in case you think that
However, safety is a very valid argument, and its pretty funny that you’re going to complain about intellectual dishonesty, and then pretend people don’t decline as they age, or acknowledge that we have no good systems to catch that and mitigate the risk to safety it poses.
08-02-2023 | 08:52 AM
#493
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Even at face value…that’s a perfectly legit reason. The people close to retirement have moved up thanks to mandatory retirement their whole career, and now want to make that pause just as they hit their personal maximum seniority, providing everyone else with a stagnation, and a reduction in peak seniority for anyone who either medicals out or isn’t willing to be a flying corpse. It’s pure selfishness on their part. So you’re not close. So what. Doesn’t make it right.
However, safety is a very valid argument, and its pretty funny that you’re going to complain about intellectual dishonesty, and then pretend people don’t decline as they age, or acknowledge that we have no good systems to catch that and mitigate the risk to safety it poses.
However, safety is a very valid argument, and its pretty funny that you’re going to complain about intellectual dishonesty, and then pretend people don’t decline as they age, or acknowledge that we have no good systems to catch that and mitigate the risk to safety it poses.
This is unlikely to change but it's a fact that virtually everyone will ride it out to the end no matter what they say today. Just like when they changed it to 65. The ones that rage against it the most are the ones who are just Closet 67ers. Past performance does in fact predict future results in this case.
08-02-2023 | 09:39 AM
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67 is meant to buy time for age 70 according to the secretary of the age 67 group. Initials AA and former chief in SFO and ORD. So get used to your current seniority for the next 5 years. Surgeon’s have to stop at 65. This is 100% a safety issue. Half the 64 year olds I fly with now have cognitive impairments and need babysitting.
08-02-2023 | 10:58 AM
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Even at face value…that’s a perfectly legit reason. The people close to retirement have moved up thanks to mandatory retirement their whole career, and now want to make that pause just as they hit their personal maximum seniority, providing everyone else with a stagnation, and a reduction in peak seniority for anyone who either medicals out or isn’t willing to be a flying corpse. It’s pure selfishness on their part. So you’re not close. So what. Doesn’t make it right.
However, safety is a very valid argument, and its pretty funny that you’re going to complain about intellectual dishonesty, and then pretend people don’t decline as they age, or acknowledge that we have no good systems to catch that and mitigate the risk to safety it poses.
However, safety is a very valid argument, and its pretty funny that you’re going to complain about intellectual dishonesty, and then pretend people don’t decline as they age, or acknowledge that we have no good systems to catch that and mitigate the risk to safety it poses.
no matter which side you are on - it’s basically greed and self interest
older folks wanting to hand in longer at top seniority or younger folks who cannot wait to take a top spot.
all the other arguments are just noise.
the overarching demographic factor is that people live longer. The expectation for society at large is to work longer - you don’t even qualify for full social security at 65.
08-02-2023 | 11:54 AM
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67 is meant to buy time for age 70 according to the secretary of the age 67 group. Initials AA and former chief in SFO and ORD. So get used to your current seniority for the next 5 years. Surgeon’s have to stop at 65. This is 100% a safety issue. Half the 64 year olds I fly with now have cognitive impairments and need babysitting.
08-02-2023 | 11:59 AM
#497
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67 is meant to buy time for age 70 according to the secretary of the age 67 group. Initials AA and former chief in SFO and ORD. So get used to your current seniority for the next 5 years. Surgeon’s have to stop at 65. This is 100% a safety issue. Half the 64 year olds I fly with now have cognitive impairments and need babysitting.
08-02-2023 | 12:03 PM
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no matter which side you are on - it’s basically greed and self interest
older folks wanting to hand in longer at top seniority or younger folks who cannot wait to take a top spot.
all the other arguments are just noise.
the overarching demographic factor is that people live longer. The expectation for society at large is to work longer - you don’t even qualify for full social security at 65.
older folks wanting to hand in longer at top seniority or younger folks who cannot wait to take a top spot.
all the other arguments are just noise.
the overarching demographic factor is that people live longer. The expectation for society at large is to work longer - you don’t even qualify for full social security at 65.
not everyone in their last few years are at the top on the seniority list
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