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Old 08-02-2023 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
Looks like your reading comprehension has already degraded. I said age 67 forces us to pick between 2 options. Option 1, achieve the seniority we expected before the rules got changed. That forces us to work longer. Option 2, retire at 65 and give up 2 years of seniority. Those are bad options for the people that don't have our personalities tied to this job.
You are never forced to work longer.
Old 08-02-2023 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by yesto67
You are never forced to work longer.
Are you just trolling? What don't you get? Here is an example. Let's say right now if I make it to 65, I retire at 5%. If the retirement age moves up to 67, to get to that same seniority level of 5% means I need to work longer than I planned (67 instead of 65). If I still retire at 65, that means instead of spending my last few years at 5%, I am at 10%. That means age 67 negatively affects everyone younger than those who are 65 right now. Either they work longer than planned to get to the same seniority, or they give up that seniority. Do you really not understand this? If so, I strongly question your cognitive abilities.
Old 08-02-2023 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
Are you just trolling? What don't you get? Here is an example. Let's say right now if I make it to 65, I retire at 5%. If the retirement age moves up to 67, to get to that same seniority level of 5% means I need to work longer than I planned (67 instead of 65). If I still retire at 65, that means instead of spending my last few years at 5%, I am at 10%. That means age 67 negatively affects everyone younger than those who are 65 right now. Either they work longer than planned to get to the same seniority, or they give up that seniority. Do you really not understand this? If so, I strongly question your cognitive abilities.
You are NEVER forced to work longer. You can retire whenever the eff you desire.

When the next black swan event results in 25% furloughs, loss of pension, bankruptcy, and 10-15 years to recover, you will appreciate an age 67 retirement opportunity. New hires now making more than I made in year 4, get no sympathy from me. Those hired before me that started over from nothing after PanAm, Eastern, Braniff, etc., and went through a strike in 1985 had it even worse.

Ask me how I know.

Age 67 is going to happen. Best come to grips with it and enjoy your career of choice.

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Old 08-02-2023 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
Are you just trolling? What don't you get? Here is an example. Let's say right now if I make it to 65, I retire at 5%. If the retirement age moves up to 67, to get to that same seniority level of 5% means I need to work longer than I planned (67 instead of 65). If I still retire at 65, that means instead of spending my last few years at 5%, I am at 10%. That means age 67 negatively affects everyone younger than those who are 65 right now. Either they work longer than planned to get to the same seniority, or they give up that seniority. Do you really not understand this? If so, I strongly question your cognitive abilities.
Thats the dumbest argument I’ve heard in a long time. Retire when you want. Oh, and btw, it doesn’t matter what any of us think on this issue. Congress will either pass it or not, regardless of whatever you believe.
Old 08-02-2023 | 06:15 PM
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I never said you can’t retire early. I said you have to pick. Retire at 65 and give up 2 years of seniority you would have had under the current system, or work longer to get to that same seniority. I never said we would be forced to work longer. Age 67 is just robbing everyone younger than you of 2 years of seniority.
Old 08-02-2023 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by yesto67

When the next black swan event….get no sympathy from me.
Nor do I have any sympathy for you reaching into my pocket to make up for your bad luck.

I will in fact retire when I want, because I’m not going to be waiting for a federally-mandated limit with tears in my eyes.
Old 08-02-2023 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hopp
@Half whit; Surgeons have no age limit. I know personally of 2 orthos and one brain surgeon over 70.
Most medical institutions won’t take surgeons above 65 according to my surgeon friend but have fun going under the knife with those over 70 year olds.
Old 08-02-2023 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
I never said you can’t retire early. I said you have to pick. Retire at 65 and give up 2 years of seniority you would have had under the current system, or work longer to get to that same seniority. I never said we would be forced to work longer. Age 67 is just robbing everyone younger than you of 2 years of seniority.
Another option is to “lose your medical” at 65 and collect tax free LTD money to subsidize the first 2 years of retirement. Unless someone intends to fly GA, there will be no need to maintain a medical when we leave this place. LTD at 65 sounds good, LTD at 63 is sounding even better.
Old 08-02-2023 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
wherever you might be - you’d be higher on the list without 67. Still self interest but possibly with a lower return.

Im opposed to the change but I can tell you that almost everyone will stick it out no matter what they say today.
Old 08-02-2023 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
Another option is to “lose your medical” at 65 and collect tax free LTD money
Cool. So this is just a way for you all to scam the system.
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