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Old 07-21-2023 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ytumama
When the age went from 60-65. I’m not aware that anyone who retired before that law changed was allowed to come back at their seniority.
There was no retro provision in the language when we went to 65. Don't know if it will survive, but there is a retro provision in the 67 language.
Old 07-21-2023 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 89Pistons
There was no retro provision in the language when we went to 65. Don't know if it will survive, but there is a retro provision in the 67 language.
Don’t get excited about things until they’re done.
Old 07-21-2023 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ytumama
Don’t get excited about things until they’re done.
Excited? You lost me with that one. Where did you get the idea that I was excited?
Old 07-21-2023 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus
Every other 64.5 yr old I have ever flown with has been deaf, burnt out, and/or bordering an alzheimers diagnosis. You might be cognitively great but you won the lottery. Go spend your money and enjoy life. If we let this new completely arbitrary age surpass the old arbitrary age we are opening a can of worms with our medicals and scrutiny. There's this whole big thing outside of flying that is pretty awesome.
There’s so many angles to their BS campaign, but this definitely touches on one…..the so-called “rigorous physicals” they say they will continue to undergo every 6 months. You mean the one where you pay “your guy” a Benjamin or two to basically verify all 4 limbs are still attached, sign a piece of paper, and then send you on your way? That type of “rigorous physical”??? They’ll be nonrevving all over the country to find the right AMEs. Just another part of a broken system that will only get even more broken, just like their minds and bodies.

To the traveling public: SAFETY WILL BE COMPROMISED…..
Old 07-21-2023 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 89Pistons
Excited? You lost me with that one. Where did you get the idea that I was excited?
Excited like agitated. Especially about a bill that’s going to go to a conference in which house language often goes by the way side. The House is a lot about messaging bills/amendments that will never see the light of day. Even if it made it to the final bill it would likely go down in court. People staying who aren’t yet 65 is a rule change, pushing people out of a job (like WB CA) because of a law is basically lost wages through regulation.
Old 07-21-2023 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ytumama
Excited like agitated. Especially about a bill that’s going to go to a conference in which house language often goes by the way side. The House is a lot about messaging bills/amendments that will never see the light of day. Even if it made it to the final bill it would likely go down in court. People staying who aren’t yet 65 is a rule change, pushing people out of a job (like WB CA) because of a law is basically lost wages through regulation.
I only pointed out why 65 isn't exactly past precedent. Retro wasn't in that to begin with like it is in 67 (for now).
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
There’s so many angles to their BS campaign, but this definitely touches on one…..the so-called “rigorous physicals” they say they will continue to undergo every 6 months. You mean the one where you pay “your guy” a Benjamin or two to basically verify all 4 limbs are still attached, sign a piece of paper, and then send you on your way? That type of “rigorous physical”??? They’ll be nonrevving all over the country to find the right AMEs. Just another part of a broken system that will only get even more broken, just like their minds and bodies.

To the traveling public: SAFETY WILL BE COMPROMISED…..
We need a hidden camera expose of the AME/FAA Medical grift. It’s a totally unnecessary function that rife with corruption. Places like AMAS only exist because of the inefficiencies they have a hand in preserving.
Old 07-23-2023 | 01:26 AM
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What’s “retro” for age 67 mean? Thx
Old 07-23-2023 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzer
What’s “retro” for age 67 mean? Thx
It means a 65+ guy that was forced to retire….can come back to his original seniority and pay. I’m not passionately for or against the increase to 67….but bringing people back? No
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
It means a 65+ guy that was forced to retire….can come back to his original seniority and pay. I’m not passionately for or against the increase to 67….but bringing people back? No
Does the union have any control over where retro pilots can slot in?
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