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Old 06-20-2023 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AirportJunkie
This post is the epitome of how ignorant some are on this subject.
Please feel free to educate me.... and perhaps our negotiating committee. For they, in their ignorance, are persuing an accrual/bank type sick leave system. Just like our current one. You can hear it from Phil himself on the latest townhall. That's the way it is.
Old 06-20-2023 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AirportJunkie
This post is the epitome of how ignorant some are on this subject.
The problem you're going with this issue at this juncture is the average age of the pilot group is way down. Therefore everyone knows in your 20's your indestructible, 30's never get sick, 40's have the sniffles occasionally, then in the 50's/60's stuff goes wrong, even to the healthiest of individuals. Most of the time you can be fixable, occasionally not. This is the time to lock down amazing LTD / Sick leave benefits because it costs the company relatively less, in a couple more decades, it'll be much harder.
Old 06-20-2023 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by guppie
Please feel free to educate me.... and perhaps our negotiating committee. For they, in their ignorance, are persuing an accrual/bank type sick leave system. Just like our current one. You can hear it from Phil himself on the latest townhall. That's the way it is.
Delta has DPMA which basically pays two years at full pay when you go out long term. Whats our bank cap? A lot less than two years. Frustrating to see an obviously better system be hampered by "this is how we have always done it" or the robot Marvin's who have never gotten sick. After kids in daycare and a few surgeries my sick bank is toast but at least a handful of people who routinely pull 18 days off have a big bank.
Old 06-20-2023 | 06:43 PM
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Love seeing GK and his fellow self-serving boomers trying to rally the troops and his cause to make him another million dollars.
Old 06-20-2023 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus
Delta has DPMA which basically pays two years at full pay when you go out long term. Whats our bank cap? A lot less than two years. Frustrating to see an obviously better system be hampered by "this is how we have always done it" or the robot Marvin's who have never gotten sick. After kids in daycare and a few surgeries my sick bank is toast but at least a handful of people who routinely pull 18 days off have a big bank.
Did you watch the Town hall? A broad description of our SL desire, LTD, and 'bridge to LTD' are discussed.
Old 06-21-2023 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AbjectFutility
Did you watch the Town hall? A broad description of our SL desire, LTD, and 'bridge to LTD' are discussed.

Yeah, but broad is an understatement. If you could glean anything other than it will be better, I certainly missed it. Additionally, IIRC DPMP is an ALPA product. I don’t think that is something contractually negotiated, but maybe someone from Delta can expand on that.
Old 06-21-2023 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
Yeah, but broad is an understatement. If you could glean anything other than it will be better, I certainly missed it. Additionally, IIRC DPMP is an ALPA product. I don’t think that is something contractually negotiated, but maybe someone from Delta can expand on that.
If you're talking about DPMA, or Delta Pilots' Mutual Aid, that is an independent benefit association started when the earth was still cooling. It has nothing to do with ALPA, and is run by a unrelated set of trustees,

DPMP is the Delta Pilots' Medical Plan, one of two contractual health plans, and is a PPO style plan.

No relation between the two, but I get the confusion. Delta loves their acronyms and decision trees.
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
If you're talking about DPMA, or Delta Pilots' Mutual Aid, that is an independent benefit association started when the earth was still cooling. It has nothing to do with ALPA, and is run by a unrelated set of trustees,

DPMP is the Delta Pilots' Medical Plan, one of two contractual health plans, and is a PPO style plan.

No relation between the two, but I get the confusion. Delta loves their acronyms and decision trees.
Thanks, yes, I misspoke. I was referring to DPMA--that is still not a contractual benefit, though correct?
Old 06-21-2023 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
Thanks, yes, I misspoke. I was referring to DPMA--that is still not a contractual benefit, though correct?
It’s actually an independent non profit 501 (c) 9 VEBA, voluntary employees beneficiary association. It’s not associated with the company or ALPA, and your only opportunity to enroll is during your first X days of employment. (I think it’s 30 days or so)
Old 06-24-2023 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dmeg13021
Isn’t Japan already 68?
Ooh, feeling ignored? Yeah, don’t ask embarrassing questions that counter the prevailing narrative , like age 68 in Japan , or the other 13 countries who have higher than 65 to no age limits for pilots; like Canada, Costa Rica, etc.

What kind of group think lemming are you?
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