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Old 06-15-2023 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
RAA should be dissolved
What's the mechanism to accomplish that? Other than members voluntarily disassociating themselves?
Old 06-15-2023 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
No major airlines support 67. It will crush them on disability costs.
They should have been more up front about that and open about the issues it would bring about. Congressional offices I’ve spoken to recently have no clue beyond “two more years = more pilots”. If major etc were out there saying the issues it might not have come this far.
Old 06-15-2023 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dmeg13021
Isn’t Japan already 68?
This older article is about a pilot's mandatory retirement from ANA at 65. He took his experience mentorship to a regional operation of 39 Dash-8 classics to local islands.
This is the direction we should be pushing in regardless regulatory change. Mandatory retirement from line flying at 65 enshrined in the UPA
How many US pilots could pass the notorious Japanese medical anyway let alone our senior WB crowd?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/28/b...red-pilot.html
Old 06-15-2023 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rangerover
There will be a lot of training associated with 65-67 yr old pilots not being able to fly internationally.
IF age 67 passes in the US, how many minutes do you think that ICAO will take to change the upper age from 65 to 67?
How many seconds will it take for other countries to jump on the 67 bandwagon? There's a shortage of pilots worldwide.

By the way, this is from a 2006 ICAO report (before it went to 65):
Nine States (Australia, Austria, Brazil, Canada, Costa Rica, New Zealand, Russian Federation, Senegal, and Ukraine) have no upper age limit[color=#525960], whereas fifty-five have an upper age limit higher than 60 years, ranging from 62 to 72 years.


For those that oppose an age change, my best recommendation is to write as many Senators and Congressmen as you can with a well crafted argument against changing the age. Your email will be read by a staffer - likely a young staffer. If your email has enough merit to it, it will be pushed up through the staff to the representative. A sincere good luck to you; it's going to be an uphill battle.
Here are a couple of large hurdles favoring a change:
-Changing retirement age to 67 helps keep social security solvent for a little bit longer
-Any summer meltdown 'due to pilot shortages' will make this more likely to remain attached to the FAA reauthorization bill.

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Old 06-15-2023 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
67 was apparently deleted from the Senate bill this morning.
According to who?? Source?

Dont spew this nonsense without citing a source. Geeze
Old 06-15-2023 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
According to who?? Source?

Dont spew this nonsense without citing a source. Geeze
https://www.commerce.senate.gov/2023...eauthorization
Old 06-15-2023 | 02:17 PM
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Do you know what happens when the Senate and House versions of a bill differ? The two versions are hashed out in conference committee; which is what happens to most bills.
Old 06-15-2023 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Do you know what happens when the Senate and House versions of a bill differ? The two versions are hashed out in conference committee; which is what happens to most bills.
Agreed, but the poster wanted a source showing that 67 was removed from the senate bill, which was provided.
Old 06-15-2023 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Agreed, but the poster wanted a source showing that 67 was removed from the senate bill, which was provided.
No, it was not yet added to the bill. The link that you gave is proposed legislation that is still being discussed in the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation, They had a meeting on the subject today.
Sen Sinema (D) is a committee member and cosponsor of the raising retirement age to 67 bill. As are Rs Sen Blackburn and Sen Fischer.
Old 06-15-2023 | 09:46 PM
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I’d prescribe a little Schoolhouse Rock for some of the folks here….
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