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Old 06-15-2023 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by guppie
This is a republican controlled House Committee vote. 32-31 was the vote. Care to guess which side was the 31 opposed? Like I always say.... back the PAC and vote Democrat. Btw, this legislation still has to survive a full vote in the House and Senate to be attached to the FAA reauthorization bill. Check your email.... it takes 2 minutes to send the ALPA form letter opposing this bill.
Great.

I can vote for a group of people who support Modern Monetary Theory, which is factually stupid and bat **** insane, who are seemingly, actively trying to destroy the economy, who will happily ban continental flying in the pursuit of green-ness, whose foreign diplomacy is essentially roll over and give up, who scream “believe science” and then refuse to argue with any scientific integrity, who are problematic in so so so many other ways.

No thanks. I’ll happily fly with 67 and older people if it means I’m not raped in taxes, freedoms, among other bad things that come to the table with democrat (liberal) government.
Old 06-15-2023 | 07:54 AM
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My question remains valid. What lobby group is pushing this? It’s not ALPA, is there a top secret geriatric pilot lobby in DC? If so I’ve never heard of it.
Could it be the airlines? I'm not being a smartass, serious question. It would be a short term fix for their staffing problem. AA/UA/DL are pretty top heavy on the seniority list. Keeping them around is probably cheaper than all the hiring, transitioning, upgrading etc to replace them. With that being said, I hope this bill goes down in flames.
Old 06-15-2023 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by VanDriver208
Could it be the airlines? I'm not being a smartass, serious question. It would be a short term fix for their staffing problem. AA/UA/DL are pretty top heavy on the seniority list. Keeping them around is probably cheaper than all the hiring, transitioning, upgrading etc to replace them. With that being said, I hope this bill goes down in flames.
There will be a lot of training associated with 65-67 yr old pilots not being able to fly internationally.
Old 06-15-2023 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Rangerover
There will be a lot of training associated with 65-67 yr old pilots not being able to fly internationally.
Isn’t Japan already 68?
Old 06-15-2023 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
My question remains valid. What lobby group is pushing this? It’s not ALPA, is there a top secret geriatric pilot lobby in DC? If so I’ve never heard of it.
RAA. The regionals are desperate. They would kill their families to improve retention at this point and slowing mainline hiring/retirements is the only tool they really have left.
Old 06-15-2023 | 08:22 AM
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RAA. The regionals are desperate. They would kill their families to improve retention at this point and slowing mainline hiring/retirements is the only tool they really have left.

back to mainline
All the 76 seaters
problem solved
Old 06-15-2023 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
back to mainline
All the 76 seaters
problem solved
From the perspective of the RAA (the lobbyists pushing their congresscreatures for this) that’s exactly the opposite of problem solved.
Old 06-15-2023 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by VanDriver208
Could it be the airlines? I'm not being a smartass, serious question. It would be a short term fix for their staffing problem. AA/UA/DL are pretty top heavy on the seniority list. Keeping them around is probably cheaper than all the hiring, transitioning, upgrading etc to replace them. With that being said, I hope this bill goes down in flames.
No major airlines support 67. It will crush them on disability costs.
Old 06-15-2023 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
From the perspective of the RAA (the lobbyists pushing their congresscreatures for this) that’s exactly the opposite of problem solved.


RAA should be dissolved
no more free cash for lobbying
game over for their respective airlines
we will hire all of their pilots
Old 06-15-2023 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
RAA should be dissolved
no more free cash for lobbying
game over for their respective airlines
we will hire all of their pilots
Yeah that would be great. I’m just answering the “who is lobbying for this” question. Not sure what your point is.
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