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#161
If your merry band of concessionists would have had their way we’d have been the laughingstock of the industry. Face it you were a loser on a losing team. The only thing more pathetic than your association with the Toddler are your repeated attempts to justify yourself by throwing shade at the winning team.
The only heavy lifting you’ve done is to wag your tic tac sized phallus in the faces of this pilot group. We remain unimpressed.
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This isn’t Russia Danny, no one makes you take a job.
#163
No worries, I was in and out of the building 6 or 7 times during the lost decade. I left for good in early 2019 and haven’t been back. During that time I was also a 777 F/O, 737 F/O, 320 F/O, 320 CA, and a 756 F/O in that order between multiple surpluses in and out of the building. So yeah you’ve probably seen a post or two about TK from me in the past.
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With respect to the min calendar day, I have also interpreted it to mean during a trip.
Here's how I think the math works, based on a trip of the following credit:
Day 1: 7.5 hours
Day 2: 6.5 hours
Day 3: Standover Day
Day 4: 6 hours
Current Book: This trip pays 20 hours. We have a 5 hour average credit per day, average being the operative word. It's not coincidental the other 3 days on a 4 day almost always work out to about 20 hours. That way the day off is free to them.
New Book: This trip would pay 21 hours with the 5:15 average credit per day, except that it has a Standover day which now takes on a value of 2:30, making the actual trip credit 22:30 (20 credit for days 1,2, and 4 plus 2:30 for day 3).
The whole notion of an average credit per day is asinine and I'm disappointed we couldn't get rid of that. It's not how it works at many other airlines. If you're away at work, a day should have a minimum value, independent of other days.
This is a good step towards paying us what we are worth, and sets the stage for future improvements. It was shocking coming here from my regional which had a hard 4:12 min day. Show up at work, get paid no less than 4:12. The above trip would pay 24:12 at my old regional.
Here's how I think the math works, based on a trip of the following credit:
Day 1: 7.5 hours
Day 2: 6.5 hours
Day 3: Standover Day
Day 4: 6 hours
Current Book: This trip pays 20 hours. We have a 5 hour average credit per day, average being the operative word. It's not coincidental the other 3 days on a 4 day almost always work out to about 20 hours. That way the day off is free to them.
New Book: This trip would pay 21 hours with the 5:15 average credit per day, except that it has a Standover day which now takes on a value of 2:30, making the actual trip credit 22:30 (20 credit for days 1,2, and 4 plus 2:30 for day 3).
The whole notion of an average credit per day is asinine and I'm disappointed we couldn't get rid of that. It's not how it works at many other airlines. If you're away at work, a day should have a minimum value, independent of other days.
This is a good step towards paying us what we are worth, and sets the stage for future improvements. It was shocking coming here from my regional which had a hard 4:12 min day. Show up at work, get paid no less than 4:12. The above trip would pay 24:12 at my old regional.
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With respect to the min calendar day, I have also interpreted it to mean during a trip.
Here's how I think the math works, based on a trip of the following credit:
Day 1: 7.5 hours
Day 2: 6.5 hours
Day 3: Standover Day
Day 4: 6 hours
Current Book: This trip pays 20 hours. We have a 5 hour average credit per day, average being the operative word. It's not coincidental the other 3 days on a 4 day almost always work out to about 20 hours. That way the day off is free to them.
New Book: This trip would pay 21 hours with the 5:15 average credit per day, except that it has a Standover day which now takes on a value of 2:30, making the actual trip credit 22:30 (20 credit for days 1,2, and 4 plus 2:30 for day 3).
The whole notion of an average credit per day is asinine and I'm disappointed we couldn't get rid of that. It's not how it works at many other airlines. If you're away at work, a day should have a minimum value, independent of other days.
This is a good step towards paying us what we are worth, and sets the stage for future improvements. It was shocking coming here from my regional which had a hard 4:12 min day. Show up at work, get paid no less than 4:12. The above trip would pay 24:12 at my old regional.
Here's how I think the math works, based on a trip of the following credit:
Day 1: 7.5 hours
Day 2: 6.5 hours
Day 3: Standover Day
Day 4: 6 hours
Current Book: This trip pays 20 hours. We have a 5 hour average credit per day, average being the operative word. It's not coincidental the other 3 days on a 4 day almost always work out to about 20 hours. That way the day off is free to them.
New Book: This trip would pay 21 hours with the 5:15 average credit per day, except that it has a Standover day which now takes on a value of 2:30, making the actual trip credit 22:30 (20 credit for days 1,2, and 4 plus 2:30 for day 3).
The whole notion of an average credit per day is asinine and I'm disappointed we couldn't get rid of that. It's not how it works at many other airlines. If you're away at work, a day should have a minimum value, independent of other days.
This is a good step towards paying us what we are worth, and sets the stage for future improvements. It was shocking coming here from my regional which had a hard 4:12 min day. Show up at work, get paid no less than 4:12. The above trip would pay 24:12 at my old regional.
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The whole notion of an average credit per day is asinine and I'm disappointed we couldn't get rid of that. It's not how it works at many other airlines. If you're away at work, a day should have a minimum value, independent of other days.
This is a good step towards paying us what we are worth, and sets the stage for future improvements. It was shocking coming here from my regional which had a hard 4:12 min day. Show up at work, get paid no less than 4:12. The above trip would pay 24:12 at my old regional.
the new add pay rigs more than make up for that 2:45, as far as I can tell, compared to the minimum daily guarantee the regionals have. Bidding locals and 2 days would be another strategy if one was preoccupied with avg day values
Last edited by TimetoClimb; 07-16-2023 at 07:59 PM.
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