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Old 07-16-2023 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooselives
Delta did the hard lifting. Our loa 5 percent is lost that we earned. Copy pasted delta is all
You’re delusional…

If your merry band of concessionists would have had their way we’d have been the laughingstock of the industry. Face it you were a loser on a losing team. The only thing more pathetic than your association with the Toddler are your repeated attempts to justify yourself by throwing shade at the winning team.

The only heavy lifting you’ve done is to wag your tic tac sized phallus in the faces of this pilot group. We remain unimpressed.
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Old 07-16-2023 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
I know several pilots that have special needs kids that can’t get the care they require in domicile cities, particularly CA. Others have family situations that don’t allow for it.

Stop pretending like you know everyone’s situation, makes you sound like an A-hole.
This isn’t Russia Danny, no one makes you take a job.
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Old 07-16-2023 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by awax
Apologies, I’m not a stalker, but I thought I’d seen you post about TK. I was trying to figure out the context for your AIP approval prior to reading the TA. I mean there’s a lot to like from the term sheet, don’t get me wrong. Some especially good stuff for TK.
No worries, I was in and out of the building 6 or 7 times during the lost decade. I left for good in early 2019 and haven’t been back. During that time I was also a 777 F/O, 737 F/O, 320 F/O, 320 CA, and a 756 F/O in that order between multiple surpluses in and out of the building. So yeah you’ve probably seen a post or two about TK from me in the past.
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Old 07-16-2023 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Otters
not true. The one year probation cycle is gone. Hours only

Sort of; you still have to be off probation unless you have the 350 hours in type at United and the 100 hours OE, etc.

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Old 07-16-2023 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
Sort of; you still have to be off probation unless you have the 350 hours in type at United and the 100 hours OE, etc.
Our LCAs are generally good but 100 hrs of OE sounds miserable
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Old 07-16-2023 | 07:23 PM
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With respect to the min calendar day, I have also interpreted it to mean during a trip.

Here's how I think the math works, based on a trip of the following credit:

Day 1: 7.5 hours
Day 2: 6.5 hours
Day 3: Standover Day
Day 4: 6 hours

Current Book: This trip pays 20 hours. We have a 5 hour average credit per day, average being the operative word. It's not coincidental the other 3 days on a 4 day almost always work out to about 20 hours. That way the day off is free to them.

New Book: This trip would pay 21 hours with the 5:15 average credit per day, except that it has a Standover day which now takes on a value of 2:30, making the actual trip credit 22:30 (20 credit for days 1,2, and 4 plus 2:30 for day 3).

​​The whole notion of an average credit per day is asinine and I'm disappointed we couldn't get rid of that. It's not how it works at many other airlines. If you're away at work, a day should have a minimum value, independent of other days.

This is a good step towards paying us what we are worth, and sets the stage for future improvements. It was shocking coming here from my regional which had a hard 4:12 min day. Show up at work, get paid no less than 4:12. The above trip would pay 24:12 at my old regional.
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Old 07-16-2023 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Be proud of the 94% NO to the Tumi TA, throwing out those reps, and the 99% strike vote.
We voted to strike? Guess I was the 1% that didn’t get the message.
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Old 07-16-2023 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8
With respect to the min calendar day, I have also interpreted it to mean during a trip.

Here's how I think the math works, based on a trip of the following credit:

Day 1: 7.5 hours
Day 2: 6.5 hours
Day 3: Standover Day
Day 4: 6 hours

Current Book: This trip pays 20 hours. We have a 5 hour average credit per day, average being the operative word. It's not coincidental the other 3 days on a 4 day almost always work out to about 20 hours. That way the day off is free to them.

New Book: This trip would pay 21 hours with the 5:15 average credit per day, except that it has a Standover day which now takes on a value of 2:30, making the actual trip credit 22:30 (20 credit for days 1,2, and 4 plus 2:30 for day 3).

​​The whole notion of an average credit per day is asinine and I'm disappointed we couldn't get rid of that. It's not how it works at many other airlines. If you're away at work, a day should have a minimum value, independent of other days.

This is a good step towards paying us what we are worth, and sets the stage for future improvements. It was shocking coming here from my regional which had a hard 4:12 min day. Show up at work, get paid no less than 4:12. The above trip would pay 24:12 at my old regional.
This isn't your regional. The door is open if you want to step outside and take a permanent look.
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Old 07-16-2023 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8

​​The whole notion of an average credit per day is asinine and I'm disappointed we couldn't get rid of that. It's not how it works at many other airlines. If you're away at work, a day should have a minimum value, independent of other days.

This is a good step towards paying us what we are worth, and sets the stage for future improvements. It was shocking coming here from my regional which had a hard 4:12 min day. Show up at work, get paid no less than 4:12. The above trip would pay 24:12 at my old regional.
I was surprised too. With that said, If you think about the days you fly 3:30 and credit 5:15 (rather than 4:12) it cushions the blow. Now we basically have a 2:45 giveaway on trips with a stand over day.

the new add pay rigs more than make up for that 2:45, as far as I can tell, compared to the minimum daily guarantee the regionals have. Bidding locals and 2 days would be another strategy if one was preoccupied with avg day values

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Old 07-16-2023 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RaginCajun
This isn't your regional. The door is open if you want to step outside and take a permanent look.
Thanks. I think I'll stay and try to continue to improve what we have here.
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