Forced Upgrade for New Hires ?
11-08-2023 | 03:57 PM
#191
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yes, absolutely you can, but unless it’s attitude related, and you made it through FO training, you would more than likely just be sent back to the right seat.
11-09-2023 | 04:40 AM
#192
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100%.
I would rather sit in the right seat for a 500 hour wonder that came from an RJ and spent those 500 hours flying in the United system than sit in the right seat for someone who hasn’t seen a domestic leg or stayed awake for an entire flight in 15 years. I have flown with both and I would pick the newbie every single time.
i haven’t needed/cared about bidding freezes, would a WBFO that goes NBFO not be able to upgrade for two years?
I would rather sit in the right seat for a 500 hour wonder that came from an RJ and spent those 500 hours flying in the United system than sit in the right seat for someone who hasn’t seen a domestic leg or stayed awake for an entire flight in 15 years. I have flown with both and I would pick the newbie every single time.
i haven’t needed/cared about bidding freezes, would a WBFO that goes NBFO not be able to upgrade for two years?
I have already more than 1000 121 PIC, but I can feel "it" eroding. Every month the phone doesn't ring I get a little dumberer, and when it DOES ring, it's another mind numbing Transcon or fluffy pillows to Frankfurt.
WBFO to NBFO does NOT incur a two year seat lock for initial (or any I think) upgrade. I could leave the WB for a NB, see the airplane and the system, and then upgrade. Or I could just do the long course, follow the FOM/FM and proceed cautiously.
11-09-2023 | 05:23 AM
#195
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Thank you...and also to M.Of. P. who's comments didn't make it into this multi-quote... as soon as the vacancy bids come back online, I'll put in an upgrade bid. Or at least right after Little League.
I have already more than 1000 121 PIC, but I can feel "it" eroding. Every month the phone doesn't ring I get a little dumberer, and when it DOES ring, it's another mind numbing Transcon or fluffy pillows to Frankfurt.
WBFO to NBFO does NOT incur a two year seat lock for initial (or any I think) upgrade. I could leave the WB for a NB, see the airplane and the system, and then upgrade. Or I could just do the long course, follow the FOM/FM and proceed cautiously.
I have already more than 1000 121 PIC, but I can feel "it" eroding. Every month the phone doesn't ring I get a little dumberer, and when it DOES ring, it's another mind numbing Transcon or fluffy pillows to Frankfurt.
WBFO to NBFO does NOT incur a two year seat lock for initial (or any I think) upgrade. I could leave the WB for a NB, see the airplane and the system, and then upgrade. Or I could just do the long course, follow the FOM/FM and proceed cautiously.
Unless you want to wait a year, your only option on the next vacancy would be to bid a CA category.
11-09-2023 | 05:53 AM
#196
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Thank you...and also to M.Of. P. who's comments didn't make it into this multi-quote... as soon as the vacancy bids come back online, I'll put in an upgrade bid. Or at least right after Little League.
I have already more than 1000 121 PIC, but I can feel "it" eroding. Every month the phone doesn't ring I get a little dumberer, and when it DOES ring, it's another mind numbing Transcon or fluffy pillows to Frankfurt.
WBFO to NBFO does NOT incur a two year seat lock for initial (or any I think) upgrade. I could leave the WB for a NB, see the airplane and the system, and then upgrade. Or I could just do the long course, follow the FOM/FM and proceed cautiously.
I have already more than 1000 121 PIC, but I can feel "it" eroding. Every month the phone doesn't ring I get a little dumberer, and when it DOES ring, it's another mind numbing Transcon or fluffy pillows to Frankfurt.
WBFO to NBFO does NOT incur a two year seat lock for initial (or any I think) upgrade. I could leave the WB for a NB, see the airplane and the system, and then upgrade. Or I could just do the long course, follow the FOM/FM and proceed cautiously.
You claimed in your post your reservation about upgrading is that you haven’t been at United long enough to see the operation……All dark side and I are saying is that you don’t see the true operation from the PANDA seat on a WB. Doesn’t mean you can’t/wont succeed as a United CA, your logic is simply flawed.
11-09-2023 | 06:38 AM
#197
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I feel like you took my quote as an insult……I flew the 787 for 8 years and upgraded into the 756 from 787 FO.
You claimed in your post your reservation about upgrading is that you haven’t been at United long enough to see the operation……All dark side and I are saying is that you don’t see the true operation from the PANDA seat on a WB. Doesn’t mean you can’t/wont succeed as a United CA, your logic is simply flawed.
You claimed in your post your reservation about upgrading is that you haven’t been at United long enough to see the operation……All dark side and I are saying is that you don’t see the true operation from the PANDA seat on a WB. Doesn’t mean you can’t/wont succeed as a United CA, your logic is simply flawed.
You guys were very helpful and I'm grateful.
11-09-2023 | 06:55 AM
#198
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Considering applying to UA as EWR is within driving distance from where I live. 12k TT, over 4000pic in the 737, LCA, and have operated N, C, and S America as well as all over Europe (Crossings included). What are the odds of being offered 737CA in initial?
11-09-2023 | 06:57 AM
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From: Head pillow fluffer, Assistant bed maker
I have said it before and will say it again: why on allahs green earth would I give up making 300k a year flying 8 or 9 days a month sleeping half the time laying over in HKG or SYD to go fly 13 or 14 days a month, 2-3 legs a day laying over in ICT or any city in FL to make 340k a year?
11-09-2023 | 07:00 AM
#200
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Depends on the drop. You are not offered CA, you bid on what's available. If your seniority can hold it, it's yours.
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