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Old 02-11-2025 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by F15andMD11
Its a pre COVID hire that had to go to Guam to upgrade. In fact the two most junior captains in this vacancy are going to Guam. I wonder if by choice or are they hoping to base trade as soon as they can. That could be a tough trade.
Anyway, the pendulum has completely slammed the opposite direction in just a few short months. Large vacancies have dried up, roughly 6-8 years to upgrade here now. About the same to get into the WB, if not longer.
I don’t think this will last long. For those that don’t remember, United was forcing pilots into captain slots, that was happening Dec ‘23 to Mar’24. Those 300+ pilots are now past the one year mark and 500 hours at United and now eligible for upgrade. Once all go through training and more WB captains retire and senior NB captains fill those slots, the need for NB captains will be in high demand once again. I believe by early ‘26 captains upgrades will be back down to 3-4 year seniority for summer flying ‘26.
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Old 02-11-2025 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchell Gant
I don’t think this will last long. For those that don’t remember, United was forcing pilots into captain slots, that was happening Dec ‘23 to Mar’24. Those 300+ pilots are now past the one year mark and 500 hours at United and now eligible for upgrade. Once all go through training and more WB captains retire and senior NB captains fill those slots, the need for NB captains will be in high demand once again. I believe by early ‘26 captains upgrades will be back down to 3-4 year seniority for summer flying ‘26.
To be clear: not a single new hire was ever forced into upgrading. They were all given the option to give up their upgrade slot if a pilot already on property wanted the slot. Prior to fall 2024, plenty of new hires did give up their slots. However, none of them have given up their slots during the past few vacancy bids, because I think they realized that if they did, it would be years before they could upgrade.

I missed the new hire CA thing by one week 😬
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Old 02-11-2025 | 06:55 PM
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Good news is things are still moving along pretty nicely. Released to the line in December and latest Vacancy shows me 74% in base already. (EWR 737).
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Old 02-12-2025 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by VacancyBid
that’s complicated because seniority isn’t solely determined by date of hire for pre-merger pilots.

but more pertinently, all it will tell you is what has happened in the last X years to someone hired in 2025-X. Essentially zero predictive value
Yeah, you are absolutely correct, and I am old enough to know better, wasn't thinking pre merger. And I am painfully aware that there is zero predictive value....
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Old 02-15-2025 | 01:55 PM
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What are the chances of getting hired with 737 type rating (0 hours 121,135)?
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Old 02-17-2025 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyy118
What are the chances of getting hired with 737 type rating (0 hours 121,135)?
It depends on the rest of your resume. But having a 0 hour type is worse than useless IMHO. If anything it says you want SWA, even that was a long time ago. Did you pay for it, or did you flunk out of training or were you laid off before OE started? So many questions...

edit: Just saw you posted the same on DL/AA(twice) too. New profile, 0 121/135, so new to the industry? Without knowing your background, and experience it is hard to say. But right now is very different from 2 yrears ago, when any CFI could get a signing bonus at a regional with an interview at a legacy attached, all regionals were handing out DEC positions, and all legacies were hiring 2k TT guys. Right now to get looked at I would guess your best chance would be a 5 year regional captain with a 4 year degree, clean record. If you only have 91 or foreign experience, you have a steep hill to climb.

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Old 02-17-2025 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyy118
What are the chances of getting hired with 737 type rating (0 hours 121,135)?
A type alone won’t get you hired at any of the places you just asked.
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Old 02-18-2025 | 05:42 AM
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does anyone mind sharing the CJO date for new hire class today? thanks
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Old 02-18-2025 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by breadwinner69
does anyone mind sharing the CJO date for new hire class today? thanks
Typically the CJO dates of people in a single class will vary a lot. In my class we had people with CJO dates at least 3--4 weeks different from each other...
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Old 02-18-2025 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyy118
What are the chances of getting hired with 737 type rating (0 hours 121,135)?
Were you at a foreign carrier with that 737 type rating?
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