16k Denver, 137xx IAH, but these numbers don’t tell the real picture. Denver had 1 bus CA the last vacancy that went 74xx. IAH had zero bus CA last vacancy.

it has been a bit all over the place lately on who gets what. Denver had unfilled 737 CA and IAH filled 40, while the previous vacancy only had 2 737 in IAH.

 

Can someone help me break this down. I have a April class date and I'm still trying to wrap my head around how this works. From what I've read, I believe if I take a CA slot during indoc I would start flying as an FO. At 350 hours, I start recieveing captain pay and at 500 hours I would be eligible for upgrade. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd also like to know at 500 hours is upgrading mandatory or do I still have a choice?

 

If you get a slot as a CA….

350 hours you get CA pay

500 hours and off probation, you go to CA training…. There is no choosing to take the upgrade at 500 hours if you take a CA slot has a NH.

if you were forced into a CA slot, you can get out of it as long as someone senior to you bid into said slot at a later vacancy bid as the company as to continue to offer CA vacancy for your slot until you go to training…

 

Ok, thank you for the clarification. So its basically upgrade at 500 hours or 1 year, which ever comes first.

 

No. both conditions need to be met

 

No, you have to check both boxes 500 hours and 1 year then you are released from probation….

 

Can you lose the slot involuntarily while you are acruing the requirements or would that only hapen if you were trying to bid back to FO. Highly unlikely but lets say the music stopped and all of a sudden everyone senior to you was scrambling for an upgrade prior to you reaching the requirements to train. In that case you would not be displaced unless you were trying to bid to FO right?

 

right. In that scenario, you can’t lose it unless you want to.

 

If the music stops you can't lose the bid.

You normally could only "lose" the bid in basically two ways:
First, if you didn't really want the bid you would advise the company of that and they would be required to continue to advertise your bid until you went to training. Keep in mind that in this scenario any bids that the company wants to put out, come before the requirement to put out your bid. So, if there are still unfilled Captain bids on a vacancy for positions that the company wanted to fill, then you still have your bid. However, if the music stopped and the company was happy with the number of Captains they have but you didn't want the bid, they would still need to advertise your slot until you went to training.
Second, (even if you wanted the bid) if the music not just stopped but started going backwards and the company decided they had too many Captains they could issue a displacment. Displacements are done in inverse seniority, so they would issue displacements to the juniormost number of Captains the company wanted to reduce from your base. Senior folks could volunteer to be displaced, but absent that, the junior folks would be displaced and allowed to go to whatever position their seniority could hold system wide.

Given the number of retirements coming up it would have to be a major event to get us into displacements/furloughs, so the second option seems pretty unlikely in the near term.

 

Appreciate the info! I was just going to ask what your thoughts were regarding displacement outlooks.

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