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Old 05-08-2024 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Opakapaka
Dude, my bro at Alaska just kicked a UA jump seater off. He said “No way in hell are you riding up here until we get info on this crap.” **** yes!
You mean your bro at the airline where a JSer got high while JSing offline and pulled the fire handles? Rich.
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Old 05-08-2024 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PhxJester
Put a muzzle on your dei new-hires.
Except for the part where a majority of pilots in the NH class is still white (nothing wrong with that btw). Thanks for playing though
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Old 05-08-2024 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PhxJester
Put a muzzle on your dei new-hires.
Mine? Huh?
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Old 05-08-2024 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
Except for the part where a majority of pilots in the NH class is still white (nothing wrong with that btw). Thanks for playing though
who said I was talking race? Thanks for playing.
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Old 05-08-2024 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hookedleft
You say that as a dig at our pilot group as if a baseball coach didn’t sit in the captains seat in cruise in one of your 767s.
now we’re talkin’ 🤣🔥🔥
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Old 05-08-2024 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PhxJester
now we’re talkin’ 🤣🔥🔥
it was a 757…but I digress. 😂😂

This pilot should be racked for her actions. She should be forced to write a public apology to not only the crew on that flight but to the entirety of Southwest Airlines and should be banned from jumpseating on them for a lengthy period of time.
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Old 05-08-2024 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
At this this stage of the game, what's alleged here is outside the confines of trying to "mentor" someone.......
This wouldn't have been on my list of things to mentor a newhire about. ... 'Make sure you don't excessively elevate an issue you saw while jumpseating...'
This falls under a whole different category of extremely poor judgment that requires a whole lot more than simply mentoring.

... from what I've read this was about flap speeds. Either extension or retraction. Either under or overspeed.


I personally will be cautious about taking any United pilots who are female halfwingers in/out of SAN.

My apologies to all of the good people at LUV; I've gotten many rides from you guys over the years.
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Old 05-08-2024 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
This wouldn't have been on my list of things to mentor a newhire about. ... 'Make sure you don't excessively elevate an issue you saw while jumpseating...'
This falls under a whole different category of extremely poor judgment that requires a whole lot more than simply mentoring.
sure you don’t specifically mentor this situation you mentor unionism, when to contact pro standards, keeping our dirty laundry in house and out of the CPO……then, maybe, when faced with this situation the pilot thinks about contacting SWAPA instead of the FAA.
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Old 05-08-2024 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
oh good I guess those two Alaska dudes that I give rides too from HNL every week to LAX can just stay there……good luck getting too work fellas

It’s great how something happens that is so egregious that a pilot goes straight to the FAA yet that pilot is the enemy……I somehow don’t think this pilot went to the FAA over some missed callouts. So let’s get more of the story before we start closing cockpit doors.
without naming names she apparently pointed something out that me as a capt would be glad she did. Going to the FAA not so much. Her picture and name is out there. I'm really bummed as an extra crew member she thought it necessary to tell the FAA over something that I'm sure has happened before. Unfortunately I will not tell what happened so I can't be sued but she did right in the cockpit, not so much after.
If you fly 121 long enough you will screw up at some point, more than once, I just hope you don't do it with a Jumpseater onboard who will turn you in to the FAA. Just sayin.
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Old 05-08-2024 | 04:51 PM
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So in summary nobody knows or is willing to say what the crew actually did, and nobody knows or is willing to say what the JS did? Cool.

Are we talking about submitting an ASAP after the crew the JS is very clearly a part of, did something dangerous? Or did this half winger call Michael Whitaker’s private line to report that the pilots finished up a personal conversation at 9,990 feet? Seems like we’d want to wait for some facts before firing up the ol torch and pitchfork.

Here’s a question with answering too. How much mentorship are new hires getting in jumpseat etiquette and dos or don’ts? I can tell you I’ve had exactly zero conversations about that. Some talks about policy , but never etiquette. If there’s been 5,000+ new hires don’t be shocked if that person dead last in experience /judgement/js etiquette does something weird. If you don’t train or mentor the new pilots right how can you expect them to act right?
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