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Old 06-03-2024 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by WhisperJet
what I see is no spoilers on the first touchdown.
If no spoilers then that means no reversers right Gentlemen? It looks like the gear never really got untilted due to all the bouncing around. Definitely a bad day at the office.
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Old 06-03-2024 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It is Monday Morning...
I'm pretty sure I do see TR's out, but hard to tell for sure.
Get your eyes checked
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Old 06-03-2024 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
can you PROVE that the TR were deployed because I don’t see it.

dont bring your un educated BS to another thread
don't waste your time replying to that troll. Pretty sad actually
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Old 06-03-2024 | 10:49 AM
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It would be interesting to know the currency level of the pilot landing. The United system can lead to many months without a pilot getting a real landing. The sim just does not really cut it for currency.
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Old 06-03-2024 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It is Monday Morning...

That landing was sketch, probably should have done a GA sooner when the oscillations started.

Looks like they decided the rwy distance remaining wasn't looking good on the roll-out, and executed a GA. That was a probably a good call.

Hopefully, the TR's weren't deployed, that's obviously a big no-no and quite often results in a wreck in the lights and antennas off the far end. I'm pretty sure I do see TR's out, but hard to tell for sure.
Unless the FCOM is wrong the TR's couldn't have been out because the spoilers didn't deploy.
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Old 06-03-2024 | 11:17 AM
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Don't know the 767 systems, but it looks to me like no spoilers deployed on the first touchdown. Good call to go around and figure it out airborne...

Definitely A LOT more to the story than what's shown.
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Old 06-03-2024 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Nordhavn
Unless the FCOM is wrong the TR's couldn't have been out because the spoilers didn't deploy.
Until a procedure change many years ago arming the spoilers was optional on the 767. Many pilots did not arm the spoilers as they deployed automatically when reverse thrust was selected. Made for a much smoother landing. It would be unusual to prevent reverse thrust selection if spoilers were not deployed however perhaps United's engine type has differences.
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Old 06-03-2024 | 11:49 AM
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Man, that's some incredible footage. Viewing the video on my phone I can't tell, but when watching it in 4K on my Apple Studio Display, I can see the Reversers and Groud Spoilers (left wing) begin to deploy 33 seconds into the video.

Having made a late decision to reject a landing once before in my career, I can say with confidence that lessons were learned that day and both pilots now have a couple more gray hairs on their heads. Kudos to the crew for acting with enough time to safely get their airplane back into the air before the end of the runway.
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Old 06-03-2024 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by game
Man, that's some incredible footage. Viewing the video on my phone I can't tell, but when watching it in 4K on my Apple Studio Display, I can see the Reversers and Groud Spoilers (left wing) begin to deploy 33 seconds into the video.

Having made a late decision to reject a landing once before in my career, I can say with confidence that lessons were learned that day and both pilots now have a couple more gray hairs on their heads. Kudos to the crew for acting with enough time to safely get their airplane back into the air before the end of the runway.
You might be right. Either spoilers or just a lot of aileron/spoiler to bring that wing back down. Difficult to tell.
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Old 06-03-2024 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
It would be interesting to know the currency level of the pilot landing. The United system can lead to many months without a pilot getting a real landing. The sim just does not really cut it for currency.
Um......OK and how is that any different than any of the other legacy airline WB flying?
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