Captain Feeds Pax on Delayed Fight
09-30-2024 | 06:02 PM
#51
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We don't know that the pilots did extend, it is very common for different crewmembers to have different schedules leading up to that leg before the delay. As a pilot, I would certainly extend if, for example, I'm not too tired because I've been given adequate rest facilities during the delay, AND I really want to get home for something instead of sleeping in some stupid ABQ hotel.
09-30-2024 | 09:26 PM
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Had a bunkie once, watching the clock for block CCO during taxi, slowing everything he could from his seat. Captain asked for a "line up and wait" while we were awaiting IFR release - we took the runway with less than a minute to spare. Bunkie was so ****ed. Such a clown, that guy, and those like him. I like to imagine him to this day, still in his mom's basement, posting to APC about all the imaginary grievances he has with the company.
10-01-2024 | 07:01 AM
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From: Cramped 737 Left Seat
10-01-2024 | 09:02 AM
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I'll bet you 30 pizzas the company picks up the bill. And if not, who cares? We're basically talking about one hour of pay for a pretty senior looking CA... he probably won't even notice the cost, but I'm sure the pax appreciated the gesture during a tough situation for everyone.
Obviously there's no contractual reimbursement here, and anyone that goes out of their way like this should expect to be funding their generosity out of their own pocket. Then if you do happen to get reimbursed, even better. Either way, nice of the CA to look out for his pax (and hopefully crew too).
Obviously there's no contractual reimbursement here, and anyone that goes out of their way like this should expect to be funding their generosity out of their own pocket. Then if you do happen to get reimbursed, even better. Either way, nice of the CA to look out for his pax (and hopefully crew too).
10-01-2024 | 11:43 AM
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Flight duty period extensions should be the exception, not the expectation. The Part 117 rules are there for a reason. I wouldn’t make the blanket statement “I never extend”. However there has to be some extenuating circumstances (ie rest facility provided during a long delay). But that isn’t usually the case with narrow body flying. I know from personal experience that after about 12 hours on duty, I start making dumb decisions. And we all know the Company isn’t going to back you up if God-forbid something happens. Asking a fatigued person if they are in fact fatigued is like asking a drunk person if they are impaired.
10-02-2024 | 06:26 AM
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not this 👇🏾
10-02-2024 | 06:37 AM
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Had a bunkie once, watching the clock for block CCO during taxi, slowing everything he could from his seat. Captain asked for a "line up and wait" while we were awaiting IFR release - we took the runway with less than a minute to spare. Bunkie was so ****ed. Such a clown, that guy, and those like him. I like to imagine him to this day, still in his mom's basement, posting to APC about all the imaginary grievances he has with the company.
If a FO or IRO does not wish to extend and the Captain does, their only option is to call out fatigued, or call Pro Standards or something.
I certainly don't agree with this but it is what it is. Some may say what's the difference. The difference is that a fatigue has two possible outcomes: APPROVED or NOT APPROVED. where as a FAR 117 non Extension is an outcome all in to itself.
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