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Old 10-30-2024 | 08:53 AM
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These "tiny" outstations charge an arm and a leg for ticket prices.
Old 10-30-2024 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Peoplemvr
These "tiny" outstations charge an arm and a leg for ticket prices.
Because the costs are so high and the airplanes have so few seats which makes it difficult to make a profit.
Old 10-30-2024 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
Here are the domestic cities United has cut service to since 2020. Most of these are served by a competitor.
Calling many of these places cities is a stretch and I know many of them no longer have air service. Most of those towns' passengers are driving an hour or two to a bigger airport. Citing the loss of these destinations to make your case that it cost mainline jobs is more than a stretch.

Decades ago some predicted that when labor costs in the regional industry "matured", seat-mile costs for small jets would preclude service to many of the smaller populations that were once served by 19-30 seat turboprops. Scope clauses are not negatively impacting mainline pilot jobs, and your comments parallel many of the misguided arguments that were used to weaken scope in the mid 90s and post 9/11. Those that fail to learn from history...
Old 10-30-2024 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
I agree. United leadership wanted to raise the MTOW of the CRJ-550 by 4,000lbs, but the union kneecapped that plan.

I don’t want more 76 seaters. I don’t want 50 seaters flying routes like EWR-ATL as they were in 2010.

I do want premium configured 50 seaters to fly from United hubs to these small airports (which cannot support mainline flights) that are served by our competitors. Without that, these passengers will fly our competitors instead.
DZ, is that you?
Old 10-30-2024 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
I agree. United leadership wanted to raise the MTOW of the CRJ-550 by 4,000lbs, but the union kneecapped that plan.

I don’t want more 76 seaters. I don’t want 50 seaters flying routes like EWR-ATL as they were in 2010.

I do want premium configured 50 seaters to fly from United hubs to these small airports (which cannot support mainline flights) that are served by our competitors. Without that, these passengers will fly our competitors instead.
United leadership has a contractually compliant level to pull to add more large RJs. They have continued to choose not to. Poor union leadership tried to give away scope and the United pilot group stopped them.

During UALs contract negotiations and TUMI voting, Mitsubishi was looking at restarting the CRJ 550 line. Shortly after TA 2.0 passed, Mitsubishi scrapped those plans.
Old 10-30-2024 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
Here are the domestic cities United has cut service to since 2020. Most of these are served by a competitor.
  • Texarkana, Arkansas
  • Flagstaff, Arizona
  • Santa Rosa, California
  • Stockton, California
  • Alamosa, Colorado
  • Pueblo, Colorado
  • Destin-Fort Walton Beach, Florida
  • Tallahassee, Florida
  • Twin Falls, Idaho
  • Springfield, Illinois
  • Evansville, Indiana
  • Paducah, Kentucky
  • Alexandria, Louisiana
  • Monroe, Louisiana
  • Kalamazoo, Michigan
  • Lansing, Michigan
  • Muskegon, Michigan
  • Rochester, Minnesota
  • Cape Girardeau, Missouri
  • Columbia, Missouri
  • Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri
  • Kearney, Nebraska
  • Ogdensburg, New York
  • Plattsburgh, New York
  • Erie, Pennsylvania
  • Pierre, South Dakota
  • Watertown, South Dakota
  • Abilene, Texas
  • College Station, Texas
  • Killeen, Texas
  • San Angelo, Texas
  • Shenandoah, Virginia
  • Everett, Washington
  • Clarksburg, West Virginia
  • Lewisburg, West Virginia
  • Eau Claire, Wisconsin
  • Wausau, Wisconsin

I removed Hilo, Hawaii as that was actually mainline service.
and most if not all were EAS cities served by Skywest. They started dropping their EAS routes when they didn’t have enough pilots to service the CPA routes.
Old 10-30-2024 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SEPfield
No problem. Recertify it as the CRJ-600 with a higher MTOW and bring it to mainline and fly it with mainline pilots. Now you have more destinations and more mainline pilot jobs, everyone wins.
No, nobody wins because mainline pilots cannot operate smaller equipment at a profit. So instead of letting regionals run these routes with more flexibility, which would put more money into your pocket, you decide to take the other route and leave the money on the table with pointless scope restrictions like reduced take off and landing weights.
Old 10-30-2024 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
I agree. United leadership wanted to raise the MTOW of the CRJ-550 by 4,000lbs, but the union kneecapped that plan.

I don’t want more 76 seaters. I don’t want 50 seaters flying routes like EWR-ATL as they were in 2010.

I do want premium configured 50 seaters to fly from United hubs to these small airports (which cannot support mainline flights) that are served by our competitors. Without that, these passengers will fly our competitors instead.
The minute the union comes to me asking for scope relief to bring on more RJ’s or up their MTOW is exactly when I start a recall drive of that individual and anyone else who does it.
Old 10-30-2024 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LizzyBorden
pointless scope restrictions like reduced take off and landing weights.
Pointless? So the company tries to end run our scope clause by creating a Frankensteinian 50 Seater and you want ALPA to agree to make it more operationally capable by waiving the contractual MTOGW? That's rich. Should we have given UAX 303 more 76 Seaters also?

Originally Posted by LizzyBorden
...put more money into your pocket, you decide to take the other route and leave the money on the table...
Whose pocket and what money?
Old 10-30-2024 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
Pointless? So the company tries to end run our scope clause by creating a Frankensteinian 50 Seater and you want ALPA to agree to make it more operationally capable by waiving the contractual MTOGW? That's rich.
Yes, pointless. Give me one valid and legit reason the reduced weights on the 550 make a lick of difference in the grand scheme of things.
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