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Old 10-30-2024 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sl0wr0ll3r
Again, you make unsubstantiated claims. Where is that magic size cutoff of mainline profitability? Prove your statement that the mainline cannot profitably fly smaller aircraft. Could United possibly be more profitable through outsourcing? Sure.

By your logic, United would outsource anything that could be flown more profitably by another carrier. No kidding. That's why we have scope language in our contract.
My statement is proven they cannot fly it profitably because they are not already doing it. If you cannot wrap your head around labor and operating costs, I frankly don't have the time nor the desire to explain simple business concepts.
Old 10-30-2024 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
If you honestly think you're going to come on a mainline forum and try to persuade pilots here that we should relax scope restrictions, you're barking up the wrong tree. We all know exactly what scope relaxation over the past couple decades has done for mainline career progression. That mistake will never be made again by mainline pilots.
I will say it again, me personally, I don't give two hoots about it. I posed the question about it to get the reasoning behind it, which all I have seen is a bunch of fluff and emotional grandstanding. I find it funny that you would think I am on some sort of persuation quest on a forum full of opinionated narcissits. Trust me, if that was my goal this is the last place I would make such an attempt.

Come on dude, you look into stuff way too deep.
Old 10-30-2024 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LizzyBorden
I will say it again, me personally, I don't give two hoots about it.
All evidence to the contrary.
Old 10-30-2024 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
All evidence to the contrary.
Well, here is the bottom line...you can think whatever you want, but that doesn't change the fact of the matter. But by all means, knock yourself out and tell yourself that.
Old 10-30-2024 | 05:31 PM
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Methinks thou doth protest too much.

United pilots are doing just fine. We appreciate your concern though.
Old 10-30-2024 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
Methinks thou doth protest too much.

United pilots are doing just fine. We appreciate your concern though.
Methinks thou doth readith into things too much.
Old 10-30-2024 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LizzyBorden
My statement is proven they cannot fly it profitably because they are not already doing it. If you cannot wrap your head around labor and operating costs, I frankly don't have the time nor the desire to explain simple business concepts.
Sorry, you're wrong and arrogantly so. Management often outsources because it is MORE profitable, not because they cannot make a profit otherwise. Such greed made China what they are today.

Anyway, you're debating here with people who have lived this issue and have the resulting scars. Thank you for running out of time and desire. Your Johnny Come Lately naivety is nothing new.
Old 10-30-2024 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sl0wr0ll3r
Sorry, you're wrong and arrogantly so. Management often outsources because it is MORE profitable, not because they cannot make a profit otherwise. Such greed made China what they are today.

Anyway, you're debating here with people who have lived this issue and have the resulting scars. Thank you for running out of time and desire. Your Johnny Come Lately naivety is nothing new.
You can keep saying Im wrong until you are blue in the face. Doesnt change the fact you obviously dont have a clue. How do I know this? The fact you made the request for me to have to explain it to you. People who know, dont need it explained to them.
This whole post you just made shows how insecure you are. Ironic you used term naivety by the way.
Old 10-31-2024 | 05:58 AM
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Hubs have limited gates and throughput so do you add a 50 Seater from a tiny town or another frequency from a much larger city from which you are taking passengers from ULCCs, LCCs and P2Ps using basic economy, no change fees and more amenities?

TD Cowen: Advantage DAL & UAL

Both airlines have been shrinking their regional outsourcing and growing the size and number of mainline aircraft.
Old 10-31-2024 | 06:12 AM
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The 550 argument is moot as it's a clapped out CRJ-700 no longer in production and being on life support by Mitsubishi for ?? It's a temporary stop gap that will only be around a few years.
If mainline aircraft can make money in the market when they're gone they will be there.
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