United to reduce regional flying
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I asked chatgpt what airspace class was associated with each market United had left. Looks correct to a quick perusal. I don't think they lose a lot of revenue leaving a Delta. The Charlie's you could argue about.
- Texarkana, Arkansas - Class D
- Flagstaff, Arizona - Class D
- Santa Rosa, California - Class C
- Stockton, California - Class C
- Alamosa, Colorado - Class E
- Pueblo, Colorado - Class D
- Destin-Fort Walton Beach, Florida - Class C
- Tallahassee, Florida - Class C
- Twin Falls, Idaho - Class D
- Springfield, Illinois - Class D
- Evansville, Indiana - Class D
- Paducah, Kentucky - Class D
- Alexandria, Louisiana - Class D
- Monroe, Louisiana - Class D
- Kalamazoo, Michigan - Class D
- Lansing, Michigan - Class D
- Muskegon, Michigan - Class D
- Rochester, Minnesota - Class D
- Cape Girardeau, Missouri - Class D
- Columbia, Missouri - Class D
- Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri - Class D
- Kearney, Nebraska - Class D
- Ogdensburg, New York - Class D
- Plattsburgh, New York - Class D
- Erie, Pennsylvania - Class D
- Pierre, South Dakota - Class D
- Watertown, South Dakota - Class D
- Abilene, Texas - Class D
- College Station, Texas - Class D
- Killeen, Texas - Class D
- San Angelo, Texas - Class D
- Shenandoah, Virginia - Class D
- Everett, Washington - Class D
- Clarksburg, West Virginia - Class D
- Lewisburg, West Virginia - Class D
- Eau Claire, Wisconsin - Class D
- Wausau, Wisconsin - Class D
#34
I asked chatgpt what airspace class was associated with each market United had left. Looks correct to a quick perusal. I don't think they lose a lot of revenue leaving a Delta. The Charlie's you could argue about.
- Texarkana, Arkansas - Class D
- Flagstaff, Arizona - Class D
- Santa Rosa, California - Class C
- Stockton, California - Class C
- Alamosa, Colorado - Class E
- Pueblo, Colorado - Class D
- Destin-Fort Walton Beach, Florida - Class C
- Tallahassee, Florida - Class C
- Twin Falls, Idaho - Class D
- Springfield, Illinois - Class D
- Evansville, Indiana - Class D
- Paducah, Kentucky - Class D
- Alexandria, Louisiana - Class D
- Monroe, Louisiana - Class D
- Kalamazoo, Michigan - Class D
- Lansing, Michigan - Class D
- Muskegon, Michigan - Class D
- Rochester, Minnesota - Class D
- Cape Girardeau, Missouri - Class D
- Columbia, Missouri - Class D
- Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri - Class D
- Kearney, Nebraska - Class D
- Ogdensburg, New York - Class D
- Plattsburgh, New York - Class D
- Erie, Pennsylvania - Class D
- Pierre, South Dakota - Class D
- Watertown, South Dakota - Class D
- Abilene, Texas - Class D
- College Station, Texas - Class D
- Killeen, Texas - Class D
- San Angelo, Texas - Class D
- Shenandoah, Virginia - Class D
- Everett, Washington - Class D
- Clarksburg, West Virginia - Class D
- Lewisburg, West Virginia - Class D
- Eau Claire, Wisconsin - Class D
- Wausau, Wisconsin - Class D
#35
Here are the domestic cities United has cut service to since 2020. Most of these are served by a competitor.
I removed Hilo, Hawaii as that was actually mainline service.
- Texarkana, Arkansas
- Flagstaff, Arizona
- Santa Rosa, California
- Stockton, California
- Alamosa, Colorado
- Pueblo, Colorado
- Destin-Fort Walton Beach, Florida
- Tallahassee, Florida
- Twin Falls, Idaho
- Springfield, Illinois
- Evansville, Indiana
- Paducah, Kentucky
- Alexandria, Louisiana
- Monroe, Louisiana
- Kalamazoo, Michigan
- Lansing, Michigan
- Muskegon, Michigan
- Rochester, Minnesota
- Cape Girardeau, Missouri
- Columbia, Missouri
- Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri
- Kearney, Nebraska
- Ogdensburg, New York
- Plattsburgh, New York
- Erie, Pennsylvania
- Pierre, South Dakota
- Watertown, South Dakota
- Abilene, Texas
- College Station, Texas
- Killeen, Texas
- San Angelo, Texas
- Shenandoah, Virginia
- Everett, Washington
- Clarksburg, West Virginia
- Lewisburg, West Virginia
- Eau Claire, Wisconsin
- Wausau, Wisconsin
I removed Hilo, Hawaii as that was actually mainline service.
Paducah? Clarksburg? College Station (those Aggies will drive…), Alexandria?….
#36
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I don’t want more 76 seaters. I don’t want 50 seaters flying routes like EWR-ATL as they were in 2010.
I do want premium configured 50 seaters to fly from United hubs to these small airports (which cannot support mainline flights) that are served by our competitors. Without that, these passengers will fly our competitors instead.
#37
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No problem. Recertify it as the CRJ-600 with a higher MTOW and bring it to mainline and fly it with mainline pilots. Now you have more destinations and more mainline pilot jobs, everyone wins.
#38
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I agree. United leadership wanted to raise the MTOW of the CRJ-550 by 4,000lbs, but the union kneecapped that plan.
I don’t want more 76 seaters. I don’t want 50 seaters flying routes like EWR-ATL as they were in 2010.
I do want premium configured 50 seaters to fly from United hubs to these small airports (which cannot support mainline flights) that are served by our competitors. Without that, these passengers will fly our competitors instead.
I don’t want more 76 seaters. I don’t want 50 seaters flying routes like EWR-ATL as they were in 2010.
I do want premium configured 50 seaters to fly from United hubs to these small airports (which cannot support mainline flights) that are served by our competitors. Without that, these passengers will fly our competitors instead.
#39
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No kidding. What a ridiculous choice of words. “Kneecapped that plan”. lol. Management propaganda for sure. What ALPA did was hold the line on scope, as they should have, per membership direction. Shockingly, we’re still doing well despite Kirby’s inability to outsource more of our flying.
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From: 787 FO
A lot of "I"s in your post. Our union is about we and it rightfully didn't reward the company for their end running of our scope clause with the CRJ-550. The company also wanted 303 additional UAX 76 Seaters to which our union said no prior to Covid. We did them a favor. They can't help themselves sometimes when it comes to outsourcing. Just ask Boeing.
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